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I remember thinking the Adam and Eve story was unfair, as a child too! Thanks for the reminder. I enjoyed learning from Rolling Stome, on Amazon, how Judaism understood the story. I was unnerved by your sparring partners, Shmooze, literalism that seemed too Christian. | |||
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Yep, acknowledged now too. Had to look up whingeing, still don’t understand the difference from whining, but it’s an interesting word. | |||
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I will not stick to only the canonise books because it is a false base when discussing either pre-Christian Judaism or NT understanding of Christianity.
Maybe, but I have serious doubts about that. One of the things Barker points out is the condemnation of intertestamental Judaism in Enoch. According to Enoch, "they had lost their way."
I'm still not convinced that ALL of what you find similar in Judaism and Mesopotamian/Zoroastrianism religions is due to borrowing/copying, although I'm willing to admit to SOME of it. That said, seems to me that Harpur found that most of what is found in Christianity could also be found in ancient Egyptian religion and others. If that is the case, then much of it can also be found in the noncanonized OT since that was where the Christians quoted their reference points from...
I'm not well read on the ancient Babylonian or Persian religions, but if those "left behind" had continued with the pre Hezekiah/Josiah religion, and the exiles were bringing back the Hezekiah/Josiah changes, plus some new foreign concepts, then there would certainly have been considerable tension between the two.
Oh, I'm not "worried" about it so much as I wasn't certain that you recognized it for what it was. A little ASC usually tends to remedy that...and recognizing that you are one with the One is pretty much all the proof that can be had. Will have to review the rest after I have finished my current crochet projects. I'm a bit pressed for time and can only spend my breaks sorting through these posts and peeking in on the News Forum. I do find some (even most) of the comments interesting over there, although getting caught up in the fray isn't something I enjoy. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Fence straddlers get a crotch full of splinters -- Granny | |||
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Found this quote and wanted to share it! "Loyalty to petrified opinions never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul." (Mark Twain) | |||
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The difference is subtle, but it is there: https://www.grammarphobia.com/...hinge-and-whine.html Though Americans use only one word, “whine,” the British use both: “whining” covers a variety of meanings, including sounds made by people, animals, or inanimate objects, and “whingeing” (also spelled “whinging”) is more specifically for peevish or fretful complaining . The British sometimes use the terms together for emphasis: “Stop your whingeing and whining!” Have replied to your email. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The people's flag is deepest red It shrouded oft our martyred dead ...Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer We'll keep the red flag flying here | |||
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Meant to post these when I mentioned Confucius' Analects:. The strength of a nation derives from the integrity of the home. Confucius https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/confucius The bugger beat me to it every time: The superior man understands what is right; the inferior man understands what will sell. How prescient can he be??? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The people's flag is deepest red It shrouded oft our martyred dead ...Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer We'll keep the red flag flying here | |||
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Thanks. I did see a minor difference, and I kinda like your word! | |||
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Almost sounds like Comey when talking about integrity. | |||
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IIRC did that only in context of that response, as you will see later here.
Remembering, of course, that when there are two Jews there are three arguments. For me, the Tanach and the Talmud are such a mishmash it is well-nigh impossible for me to get my head around anything they say. That Chabad.org is a classic. The way I see it, they include what I would term folk-lore. Did you see my post way back quoting Chabad as saying Abram was 3yo when he reached his big decision? What really got me was its version of Abram was virtually identical to the NT story leading up to the birth of Jesus. Only difference was that, unlike Herod, Abram's deliberately unnamed king saw that mysterious star and made sure his astrologers checked out its meaning. That king then led one of the earlier Slaughters of the Innocents, long before the Egyptians were blamed for it. Love to know if this was a later fabrication aimed at downplaying the new-born Christianity. Moses' story of being floated on the Nile was a direct lift from Sargon the Great's tale. Rather liked the suggestion Sargon created that to make it appear he had risen from humble beginnings. Doesn't matter to me where the Jews took their stories; have yet to find anything original in any of it. I'm with you on Harpur and the Egyptian origins. CB loves him, in part because he so very often kindly confirms what She has been telling me. Before She bruises another rib: All language about God must of necessity be a metaphor, since he/she (we prefer it) is beyond any literal description. Religion forgets that at its peril. We could not have said it better ourself, though letter-sounds is more precise. His glossary has a page on the Mystery Religions which is worth spending time on. He strengthens our POV in his Symbol, Symbolic, and Symbolism. Even better, he quotes physicist James Jeans: When we try to discuss the ultimate structure of the atom, we are driven to speak in terms of similes, metaphors, and parables. She is certain you will remember us saying exactly that about Dark Matter/Dark Energy. (QUOTE) Will have to review the rest after I have finished my current crochet projects. I'm a bit pressed for time and can only spend my breaks sorting through these posts and peeking in on the News Forum. I do find some (even most) of the comments interesting over there, although getting caught up in the fray isn't something I enjoy.[/QUOTE] I tried the News Forum. Any recommendations? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The people's flag is deepest red It shrouded oft our martyred dead ...Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer We'll keep the red flag flying here | |||
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JR requested I post this note that I originally posted in News here in your Pub den. So here goes.
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Thanks, Dixie. I don't want to post on that particular thread anymore since I feel like I'm being trolled by HB there. I will respond to it on this thread though. Again, thanks. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Fence straddlers get a crotch full of splinters -- Granny | |||
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We certainly appreciate any help you can provide. I have enjoyed several discussions on the News room, but I don't have a lot of time to spend there. Maybe you are misreading our attitude concerning Aantares Forum? It IS a little intimidating at first because it quite unlike the Amazon Forum we were accustomed to. Amazon had a couple of features that allowed for easier following of any particular strain of conversation within any particular Subject/Heading within the forum. And we all had been there for years - and we are old - and you know what they say about us old dogs and new tricks ![]()
Oh, you cannot know how much we appreciate that! She made it much simpler to find and the setup is wonderful.
We may well be using a different description of troll. IMHO, a troll is one who follows someone/group around in order to continually confront for the purpose of harassment or divisiveness. HB and I had had several pleasant meetings of the mind and I was under the impression that things were fine between us. Then he does a 180 on me and started trolling me on that thread. I was nothing less than shocked. It came out of nowhere. I searched back through the posts to see if any of us had said something that would have ticked him off. I simply couldn't find anything. We learned not to back down on the Amazon thread because if you did, you got ran over. It was never ending. You HAD to stand up and run over them or wear them out, otherwise it continued to infinity. I so love this forum because there was none of that...until now.
Possibly, but it doesn't seem that way to me. I mean, he could have posted a grin at any point...but he took aim at ALL of us and didn't let up. So I'm thinking he has an issue with our whole group and somehow feels threatened by us for some unknown reason. I mean, I pointed out that we hadn't gone proselytizing, at which point he seemed to conjure up some FUTURE threat from us. I dunno, it was just strange to me. But yeah, I am still shell shocked from the Amazon Forum and I really don't want to have to endure that here - not to mention that I don't have time for it. And thanks again for posting this here for me. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Fence straddlers get a crotch full of splinters -- Granny | |||
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The topics change according to the news of the day. The top 10-15 topics are usually the active ones and they rarely go on past a page or two. For future reference, if I find a religious topic that starts to peak my/your/our interest, I may just copy the topic to our Pub and we can take it from there. That little incident over there doesn't sit well with me. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Fence straddlers get a crotch full of splinters -- Granny | |||
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Just for you, mate; another c&p from that thread, my response to Dixie Chick: Please let me assure you. That was never disdain. All that happened was it took quite a while for some to learn how to work the system here. Our mob have been together for many years, and have one of the best personal relationships I have ever experienced. While I like to think it's my mob, the femmes keep insisting they are the ones in control. Would not wonder if they are contemplating swelling their ranks.
In that case, I'd welcome his efforts. Need to advise him, though, that Aussies are past masters at stirring the possum, and I have the added benefit of lots of practice in Scottish banter, than which there is nothing better. and you know what they say about us old dogs and new tricks Wink ![]() One of the channels is rerunning New Tricks, with the original cast. The banter makes me feel fully at home. I often wonder how non-Brits get on with it, as most of the banter is straight UK stuff. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The people's flag is deepest red It shrouded oft our martyred dead ...Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer We'll keep the red flag flying here | |||
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You little booger! I was just banging out a text message to you and you pop up on here! Good to see ya! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Fence straddlers get a crotch full of splinters -- Granny | |||
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Iirc you aren’t too bad yourself although I recall you often softening you disagreement. | |||
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