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"A Republican Senator says his comments about people spending “every darn penny” they earn on “booze or women or movies”


Sorry some of us don't have lobbyists to buy us women (or men), booze and porn movies.

[just had to say that]


Bryan, Senator Grassley was talking in the context of the estate tax. Since current laws tax the person's income, investments, property and then when the person dies the government taxes it again when it is passed on to the heirs, some people chooses to spend their wealth on frivolous things while alive. Because of the inheritance taxes, some people decide not to invest their wealth wisely.

Of course, a lot of us are lucky to have just enough left over to pay our bills when we die.


I realize that, and he lied about that too.

What's funny is he's claiming the 1% are too stupid (admittedly some are, the Kardashians come to mind) in investing their money.

And there are (or at least were) ways around the tax.

The inheritance tax doesn't affect the vast majority of people.

And if the wealthy want to spend their money on buying him women, booze, and porn to buy his vote....


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"A Republican Senator says his comments about people spending “every darn penny” they earn on “booze or women or movies”


Sorry some of us don't have lobbyists to buy us women (or men), booze and porn movies.

[just had to say that]


Bryan, Senator Grassley was talking in the context of the estate tax. Since current laws tax the person's income, investments, property and then when the person dies the government taxes it again when it is passed on to the heirs, some people chooses to spend their wealth on frivolous things while alive. Because of the inheritance taxes, some people decide not to invest their wealth wisely.

Of course, a lot of us are lucky to have just enough left over to pay our bills when we die.


For the record, investment and property appreciation has not been previously taxed. That was what the inheritance was designed to capture. Wile I don’t believe the side effects were thoroughly considered, eg families losing their homestead or business, especially farms; I now doubt the ramifications of repealing all of that tax hasalso not been fully vetted. And, my state does not base their inheritance taxes on the federal tax laws so my heirs will still have taxes to pay.
 
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I received a new reason to settle Israel this morning,

"AviS

It's hard to read Devarim, Yehoshua, Shmuel and Melachim and come to the conclusion that conquest of land is not a Torah value. Or at least a Torah-sanctioned, if not commanded, act. Certainly the distinctions are meaningless."


Politics pure and simple.

Every single relevant culture of the time saw itself as the Chosen People of the deity who had been appointed by the supreme deity as their patron deity, deity of a given selection of country.

An irrelevant group of impoverished tribes took this a logical, political, step further. They announced only their deity existed, everything belonged to him, therefore, as his Chosen People, everything belonged to them.

No different from the British Guns, Germs, and Steel.


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"We're spending ourselves into bankruptcy," Hatch said. "Now, let's just be honest about it: We're in trouble. This country is in deep debt. You don't help the poor by not solving the problems of debt, and you don't help the poor by continually pushing more and more liberal programs through."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/...-20171206-story.html

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Read. Now that we have increased the national debt by upwards of a trillion by lowering taxes mostly on the wealthy. We now have to cut money to the poor.

P.S. We also need a larger military because ours is too small.


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"We're spending ourselves into bankruptcy," Hatch said. "Now, let's just be honest about it: We're in trouble. This country is in deep debt. You don't help the poor by not solving the problems of debt, and you don't help the poor by continually pushing more and more liberal programs through."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/...-20171206-story.html

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Read. Now that we have increased the national debt by upwards of a trillion by lowering taxes mostly on the wealthy. We now have to cut money to the poor.

P.S. We also need a larger military because ours is too small.


I am hoping that the Republicans will fail miserably in their efforts to pass what they call entitlement reform. As the article points out, they failed to repeal Obamacare in the Senate, so their chances of doing what they want to do to Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid, Food Stamps, and cash aid to poor families seem slim.

I have never understood the Republican reasoning- let's cut the deficit by cutting our income (cutting taxes). It has been proven already that corporations don't expand and hire more workers when their taxes go down. It does not stimulate the economy.


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Originally posted by bryan:

I received a new reason to settle Israel this morning,

"AviS

It's hard to read Devarim, Yehoshua, Shmuel and Melachim and come to the conclusion that conquest of land is not a Torah value. Or at least a Torah-sanctioned, if not commanded, act. Certainly the distinctions are meaningless."


Politics pure and simple.

Every single relevant culture of the time saw itself as the Chosen People of the deity who had been appointed by the supreme deity as their patron deity, deity of a given selection of country.

An irrelevant group of impoverished tribes took this a logical, political, step further. They announced only their deity existed, everything belonged to him, therefore, as his Chosen People, everything belonged to them.

No different from the British Guns, Germs, and Steel.


Actually the Hebrews did not believe that everything belonged to them. They believed God, that He would fight for them, and that He had given them a certain swatch of land and they had to obey Him in order to keep it. It is an entirely different mindset than the one you are suggesting.


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"We're spending ourselves into bankruptcy," Hatch said. "Now, let's just be honest about it: We're in trouble. This country is in deep debt. You don't help the poor by not solving the problems of debt, and you don't help the poor by continually pushing more and more liberal programs through."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/...-20171206-story.html

==================

Read. Now that we have increased the national debt by upwards of a trillion by lowering taxes mostly on the wealthy. We now have to cut money to the poor.

P.S. We also need a larger military because ours is too small.


I am hoping that the Republicans will fail miserably in their efforts to pass what they call entitlement reform. As the article points out, they failed to repeal Obamacare in the Senate, so their chances of doing what they want to do to Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid, Food Stamps, and cash aid to poor families seem slim.

I have never understood the Republican reasoning- let's cut the deficit by cutting our income (cutting taxes). It has been proven already that corporations don't expand and hire more workers when their taxes go down. It does not stimulate the economy.


Considering that the law requires corporations to maximize shareholder value, the fastest way to do so is increase dividends, buy back shares or lower taxable income. Somewhere after that comes buying up other companies and expanding.

So, as far as regular corporations go, it's rather useless.

Apple for example I believe only paid 11% in taxes some years back. Most corporations pay well under the 35% max after deductions.


I can however see where the pass-through tax lowering will help some small businesses. But I don't see real estate as being one of them.


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Originally posted by Allan:
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Originally posted by bryan:

I received a new reason to settle Israel this morning,

"AviS

It's hard to read Devarim, Yehoshua, Shmuel and Melachim and come to the conclusion that conquest of land is not a Torah value. Or at least a Torah-sanctioned, if not commanded, act. Certainly the distinctions are meaningless."


Politics pure and simple.

Every single relevant culture of the time saw itself as the Chosen People of the deity who had been appointed by the supreme deity as their patron deity, deity of a given selection of country.

An irrelevant group of impoverished tribes took this a logical, political, step further. They announced only their deity existed, everything belonged to him, therefore, as his Chosen People, everything belonged to them.

No different from the British Guns, Germs, and Steel.


Actually the Hebrews did not believe that everything belonged to them. They believed God, that He would fight for them, and that He had given them a certain swatch of land and they had to obey Him in order to keep it. It is an entirely different mindset than the one you are suggesting.


Actually, for the most part they rejected God except when it sometimes served their purpose.

As the Torah says, Jews love death.


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You want to tell Mrs Exp I'm going to play Punch vs her Jody(judy) unless she drops in. I'm just not feeling that love.


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You want to tell Mrs Exp I'm going to play Punch vs her Jody(judy) unless she drops in. I'm just not feeling that love.


LOL, you think that'll get her attention?

But yeah, I'll drop her a line. Wanted to let her know that we're expecting our first snow tonight into tomorrow! Can't remember when we've ever had snow before Christmas.

Our high today was only 48 but we aren't expecting freezing temps (28) until tomorrow night, so I don't see it sticking since it won't be falling on frozen ground. Our high tomorrow is only expected to reach 39! Damp and 39 is down right chilly!!!


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Originally posted by Vicki:
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Originally posted by bryan:
"We're spending ourselves into bankruptcy," Hatch said. "Now, let's just be honest about it: We're in trouble. This country is in deep debt. You don't help the poor by not solving the problems of debt, and you don't help the poor by continually pushing more and more liberal programs through."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/...-20171206-story.html

==================

Read. Now that we have increased the national debt by upwards of a trillion by lowering taxes mostly on the wealthy. We now have to cut money to the poor.

P.S. We also need a larger military because ours is too small.


I am hoping that the Republicans will fail miserably in their efforts to pass what they call entitlement reform. As the article points out, they failed to repeal Obamacare in the Senate, so their chances of doing what they want to do to Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid, Food Stamps, and cash aid to poor families seem slim.

I have never understood the Republican reasoning- let's cut the deficit by cutting our income (cutting taxes). It has been proven already that corporations don't expand and hire more workers when their taxes go down. It does not stimulate the economy.


Considering that the law requires corporations to maximize shareholder value, the fastest way to do so is increase dividends, buy back shares or lower taxable income. Somewhere after that comes buying up other companies and expanding.

So, as far as regular corporations go, it's rather useless.

Apple for example I believe only paid 11% in taxes some years back. Most corporations pay well under the 35% max after deductions.


I can however see where the pass-through tax lowering will help some small businesses. But I don't see real estate as being one of them.


I agree. It isn't like corporations pay a lot of taxes anyway, so cutting their already low taxes shouldn't help the economy. Maybe the economists think that we should all invest in the stock market for the health of the US economy?


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Originally posted by Vicki:
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Originally posted by bryan:

I received a new reason to settle Israel this morning,

"AviS

It's hard to read Devarim, Yehoshua, Shmuel and Melachim and come to the conclusion that conquest of land is not a Torah value. Or at least a Torah-sanctioned, if not commanded, act. Certainly the distinctions are meaningless."


Politics pure and simple.

Every single relevant culture of the time saw itself as the Chosen People of the deity who had been appointed by the supreme deity as their patron deity, deity of a given selection of country.

An irrelevant group of impoverished tribes took this a logical, political, step further. They announced only their deity existed, everything belonged to him, therefore, as his Chosen People, everything belonged to them.

No different from the British Guns, Germs, and Steel.


Actually the Hebrews did not believe that everything belonged to them. They believed God, that He would fight for them, and that He had given them a certain swatch of land and they had to obey Him in order to keep it. It is an entirely different mindset than the one you are suggesting.


Actually, for the most part they rejected God except when it sometimes served their purpose.

As the Torah says, Jews love death.


They definitely had their ups and downs. God spoke through His prophets about how both Israel and Judah fell short and why they were deported. The cool thing is that he didn't abandon them. He enabled them to return to the land.


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"We're spending ourselves into bankruptcy," Hatch said. "Now, let's just be honest about it: We're in trouble. This country is in deep debt. You don't help the poor by not solving the problems of debt, and you don't help the poor by continually pushing more and more liberal programs through."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/...-20171206-story.html

==================



Read. Now that we have increased the national debt by upwards of a trillion by lowering taxes mostly on the wealthy. We now have to cut money to the poor.

P.S. We also need a larger military because ours is too small.


I am hoping that the Republicans will fail miserably in their efforts to pass what they call entitlement reform. As the article points out, they failed to repeal Obamacare in the Senate, so their chances of doing what they want to do to Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid, Food Stamps, and cash aid to poor families seem slim.

I have never understood the Republican reasoning- let's cut the deficit by cutting our income (cutting taxes). It has been proven already that corporations don't expand and hire more workers when their taxes go down. It does not stimulate the economy.


One of the things to watch for in any Medicare cuts is what happens to the military who were forced into the program rather than continue in the Free program they were promised. It used to make my Mom really irritated that she had to now pay for what was promised as a life long benefit. The problem will diminish as the baby boomers die out, the current recruits have no such promises.
 
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You want to tell Mrs Exp I'm going to play Punch vs her Jody(judy) unless she drops in. I'm just not feeling that love.


LOL, you think that'll get her attention?

But yeah, I'll drop her a line. Wanted to let her know that we're expecting our first snow tonight into tomorrow! Can't remember when we've ever had snow before Christmas.

Our high today was only 48 but we aren't expecting freezing temps (28) until tomorrow night, so I don't see it sticking since it won't be falling on frozen ground. Our high tomorrow is only expected to reach 39! Damp and 39 is down right chilly!!!


College station Texas has over 4 inches, iirc. And no there usually isn’t snow there and certainly not this early. I remember snow in Jax, fla but again more like February.

We are expected to miss anything other than a few flakes.
 
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Actually the Hebrews did not believe that everything belonged to them. They believed God, that He would fight for them, and that He had given them a certain swatch of land and they had to obey Him in order to keep it. It is an entirely different mindset than the one you are suggesting.


Ah, Vicki. I thought we had agreed not to get into any such dispute?

I spent my entire life involved in one way or another in politics.

Politics goes back more than some 10,000 years, and it is not possible to exclude its ramifications in any culture.

According to one (Ultra)-Orthodox Jew I chatted with, there were NO Hebrews before Yahweh revealed himself to the boy Abram.

However, he was adamant that, in God's own time, the Jews would become, in effect, the Master Race ruling the entire world.

In their deity's name, of course.

He is far from alone in thinking that, while far more Jews today do not share his views.

However, the Torah, the Tanakh, the Talmud, all point in that direction.

http://www.jcpa.org/dje/books/kincon-ch1.htm
The thesis of this volume is that there is a Jewish political tradition whose origins are to be found in the Bible, a tradition which emerged at the very beginning of the existence of the Jewish people and which has continued to influence Jewish political and communal life ever since. The basis of that political tradition is to be found in the biblical idea of covenant and in the political principles and processes which flow from it. The biblical political teaching as manifest in the Jewish political tradition is an important political teaching for Jews and non-Jews alike and has been so recognized throughout the Western world. At crucial moments in Western history its influence has been decisive. Nevertheless, after surviving changes of constitution and regime, exile and dispersion, the Jewish political tradition has been nearly lost in our times, for Jews as well as non-Jews, precisely at the threshold of the renewal of full Jewish political life, and needs to be recovered by systematic effort so that it may fill a vital and needed role in contemporary Jewish life, both in Israel and in the diaspora.
...It can be said that, in Jewish tradition, the ties of covenant are the concretization of the relationship of dialogue which, when addressed to God make man holy and, when addressed to one's fellows, make men human. As the Bible itself makes clear, the covenantal bonds transform what most religions understood as a mystical union into a real one, making life -- including political life -- possible in an all-too-real world. In many ways, the progress of civilization can be traced as corresponding to the periods in human history when significant groups of people have recognized the covenant idea and sought to concretely apply it to the building of human, political and social relationships.
...As already suggested, from the political perspective the Sinai covenant is reminiscent of a social compact in that it provides the political and social framework for constitution-making but not the constitution itself. The restatement of the Sinai covenant in Deuteronomy is constructed along more explicitly political-legal lines, the pattern characteristic of that book.11 The Exodus and the Sinai covenant usher in an epoch in Jewish history, the principal political manifestation of which was the tribal federation. During this epoch, the Jewish people clearly began to forge its unique blend of kinship and consent as the basis of its political life, transcending the real or putative links of kinship which characterize tribal society to add the dimension of deliberate consent -- one of the outstanding manifestations of the covenant idea -- without destroying the people's or the polity's tribal base.12

Plenty of politics here, is there not?

Just how it is to be interpreted is a matter of choice, of course.


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@JR,

You want to tell Mrs Exp I'm going to play Punch vs her Jody(judy) unless she drops in. I'm just not feeling that love.


LOL, you think that'll get her attention?

But yeah, I'll drop her a line. Wanted to let her know that we're expecting our first snow tonight into tomorrow! Can't remember when we've ever had snow before Christmas.

Our high today was only 48 but we aren't expecting freezing temps (28) until tomorrow night, so I don't see it sticking since it won't be falling on frozen ground. Our high tomorrow is only expected to reach 39! Damp and 39 is down right chilly!!!


I saw the snow notice, was wondering if you were going to pose yourself outside as a snow woman?

Hmmm, there is just too much humour in having a 'white Christmas' this year.


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Actually the Hebrews did not believe that everything belonged to them. They believed God, that He would fight for them, and that He had given them a certain swatch of land and they had to obey Him in order to keep it. It is an entirely different mindset than the one you are suggesting.


Ah, Vicki. I thought we had agreed not to get into any such dispute?

I spent my entire life involved in one way or another in politics.

Politics goes back more than some 10,000 years, and it is not possible to exclude its ramifications in any culture.

According to one (Ultra)-Orthodox Jew I chatted with, there were NO Hebrews before Yahweh revealed himself to the boy Abram.

However, he was adamant that, in God's own time, the Jews would become, in effect, the Master Race ruling the entire world.

In their deity's name, of course.

He is far from alone in thinking that, while far more Jews today do not share his views.

However, the Torah, the Tanakh, the Talmud, all point in that direction.

http://www.jcpa.org/dje/books/kincon-ch1.htm
The thesis of this volume is that there is a Jewish political tradition whose origins are to be found in the Bible, a tradition which emerged at the very beginning of the existence of the Jewish people and which has continued to influence Jewish political and communal life ever since. The basis of that political tradition is to be found in the biblical idea of covenant and in the political principles and processes which flow from it. The biblical political teaching as manifest in the Jewish political tradition is an important political teaching for Jews and non-Jews alike and has been so recognized throughout the Western world. At crucial moments in Western history its influence has been decisive. Nevertheless, after surviving changes of constitution and regime, exile and dispersion, the Jewish political tradition has been nearly lost in our times, for Jews as well as non-Jews, precisely at the threshold of the renewal of full Jewish political life, and needs to be recovered by systematic effort so that it may fill a vital and needed role in contemporary Jewish life, both in Israel and in the diaspora.
...It can be said that, in Jewish tradition, the ties of covenant are the concretization of the relationship of dialogue which, when addressed to God make man holy and, when addressed to one's fellows, make men human. As the Bible itself makes clear, the covenantal bonds transform what most religions understood as a mystical union into a real one, making life -- including political life -- possible in an all-too-real world. In many ways, the progress of civilization can be traced as corresponding to the periods in human history when significant groups of people have recognized the covenant idea and sought to concretely apply it to the building of human, political and social relationships.
...As already suggested, from the political perspective the Sinai covenant is reminiscent of a social compact in that it provides the political and social framework for constitution-making but not the constitution itself. The restatement of the Sinai covenant in Deuteronomy is constructed along more explicitly political-legal lines, the pattern characteristic of that book.11 The Exodus and the Sinai covenant usher in an epoch in Jewish history, the principal political manifestation of which was the tribal federation. During this epoch, the Jewish people clearly began to forge its unique blend of kinship and consent as the basis of its political life, transcending the real or putative links of kinship which characterize tribal society to add the dimension of deliberate consent -- one of the outstanding manifestations of the covenant idea -- without destroying the people's or the polity's tribal base.12

Plenty of politics here, is there not?

Just how it is to be interpreted is a matter of choice, of course.


Actually not it seems the House of Judah, but just the House of Israel with Judah serving Israel. But the interpretations seem to vary.


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College station Texas has over 4 inches, iirc. And no there usually isn’t snow there and certainly not this early. I remember snow in Jax, fla but again more like February.

We are expected to miss anything other than a few flakes.


Yeah, I think only the panhandle in TX gets a little snow every now and then. It's a major anomaly everywhere else.

Same for FL! That is a very rare occurrence.

We're getting a rain/snow mix right now. Miz Baby is not amused. For me it's just a trigger to make some soup!


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I saw the snow notice, was wondering if you were going to pose yourself outside as a snow woman?

Hmmm, there is just too much humour in having a 'white Christmas' this year.


LOL, I'd be covered in goosebumps and would look more like a 'bumpy ball'!

I'm thinking the liddle trumpeter is putting a damper on most of our Christmas spirit...


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Actually not it seems the House of Judah, but just the House of Israel with Judah serving Israel. But the interpretations seem to vary.


Yeah, it's complicated because some Jews believe they are all Israel while others do not, although the Bible makes a clear distinction between the two. There are numerous websites featuring information concerning the "Ten Lost Tribes of Israel", some of them hosted by Jews.


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