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That moment when all the liberal, rich New York Times subscribers on the Upper East Side sat up and said “hey, wait, that’s us!” – Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, who is fast replacing Bernie Sanders as Marxism’s favorite stalking horse in the United States, sat down for an interview on 60 Minutes with Anderson Cooper on Sunday, and hilarity predictably ensued.

First, our intrepid dancing heroine was, as always, completely unable to explain how she would pay for the $40 Trillion-plus price tag for her “Green New Deal” set of proposals, because of course she couldn’t – she’s a Marxist after all, and an incredibly ignorant and ill-informed one to boot. When asked for an explanation by Cooper, she offered only a dodge:

“No one asks how we’re gonna pay for this Space Force. No one asked how we paid for a $2 trillion tax cut.”


“We only ask how we pay for it on issues of housing, health care and education,” Ocasio-Cortez said. “How do we pay for it? With the same exact mechanisms that we pay for military increases for this Space Force. For all of these– ambitious policies.”

Oh. But she did offer a bit of a clue – and a warning for all of you wealthy liberals who think she’s just a cute, good-hearted gal from Queens or the Bronx or whichever burrough of New York City raised her to think the crazy things she does – later in the interview, when she said this:


“You know if you look at our tax rates back in the 60s and you have a progressive tax rate system, the tax rate from zero to $75,000 may be 10%, 15% etc. But once you get to the tippy-tops on your $10 million, sometimes you see tax rates as high as 60 or 70%. That doesn’t mean all $10 million are taxed at an extremely high rate, but it means that as you climb up this ladder you should be contributing more.”

So, for those “tippy-toppers” living in those muti-million dollar condos with wonderful views of Central Park in Manhattan who are already forking over more than 12% of your income in New York’s lovely state and local income taxes, that means that your new hero wants you to fork over more than 82% of your income each year to the various government entities that rule your lives.



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That moment when all the liberal, rich New York Times subscribers on the Upper East Side sat up and said “hey, wait, that’s us!” – Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, who is fast replacing Bernie Sanders as Marxism’s favorite stalking horse in the United States, sat down for an interview on 60 Minutes with Anderson Cooper on Sunday, and hilarity predictably ensued.

First, our intrepid dancing heroine was, as always, completely unable to explain how she would pay for the $40 Trillion-plus price tag for her “Green New Deal” set of proposals, because of course she couldn’t – she’s a Marxist after all, and an incredibly ignorant and ill-informed one to boot. When asked for an explanation by Cooper, she offered only a dodge:

“No one asks how we’re gonna pay for this Space Force. No one asked how we paid for a $2 trillion tax cut.”


“We only ask how we pay for it on issues of housing, health care and education,” Ocasio-Cortez said. “How do we pay for it? With the same exact mechanisms that we pay for military increases for this Space Force. For all of these– ambitious policies.”

Oh. But she did offer a bit of a clue – and a warning for all of you wealthy liberals who think she’s just a cute, good-hearted gal from Queens or the Bronx or whichever burrough of New York City raised her to think the crazy things she does – later in the interview, when she said this:


“You know if you look at our tax rates back in the 60s and you have a progressive tax rate system, the tax rate from zero to $75,000 may be 10%, 15% etc. But once you get to the tippy-tops on your $10 million, sometimes you see tax rates as high as 60 or 70%. That doesn’t mean all $10 million are taxed at an extremely high rate, but it means that as you climb up this ladder you should be contributing more.”

So, for those “tippy-toppers” living in those muti-million dollar condos with wonderful views of Central Park in Manhattan who are already forking over more than 12% of your income in New York’s lovely state and local income taxes, that means that your new hero wants you to fork over more than 82% of your income each year to the various government entities that rule your lives.



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Fox really hates AOC. I can tell by just how much you’re obsessed with. It’s the 6th anniversary of Obama wearing a tan suit. I’m surprised you didn’t post about that.


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    Some are proposing that a trial of her commie proposal be done in New York State before it's inflicted on the whole country.


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    Some are proposing that a trial of her commie proposal be done in New York State before it's inflicted on the whole country.
    They've already done a trial of universal health care in 1st world countries and found it successful and far less costly than the patchwork profit-based system in the US.


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    Her commie proposal involves much more than health care.


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    Her commie proposal involves much more than health care.
    What industries are to come under state ownership and control? -- other than the highways, emergency services, schools, and the military which are already there.


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    Some are proposing that a trial of her commie proposal be done in New York State before it's inflicted on the whole country.
    They've already done a trial of universal health care in 1st world countries and found it successful and far less costly than the patchwork profit-based system in the US.

    Exactly.

    But maybe we should let frightie stew in his own juices until his blood pressure comes to a full boil...


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    I would gladly put up with toilet paper shortages if only the government would forget about the border wall and nationalize Fox News. Then we could build a perfect society on the ruins of capitalism.


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    But maybe we should let frightie stew in his own juices until his blood pressure comes to a full boil...
    She sure did make frighty forget all about Maxine. Now he's got a rabo verde crush on AOC along with the entire wingnut botnet. Jeez, they've made her the most famous newb representative since JQ Adams took up legislating as a hobby after retiring from the WH.


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    Some are proposing that a trial of her commie proposal be done in New York State before it's inflicted on the whole country.


    Speaking of trials, I think it's time for trump to be tried for treason. And I don't really care if there's a trial, to be honest. I find him guilty as charged!

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    Wasn't it Maxine who wanted to nationalize the oil companies?


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    A Washington post study estimates Ocasio-Cortez's tax plan would bring in $720 billion over a decade which is no way close to the estimated cost for Medicare for all over a decade.


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    Every other advanced industrialized nation on earth has a national healthcare system. Somehow they all find a way to pay for it.


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    I lived in New York State when they voted in a Medicaid plan. Only one Senator voted against it because he said it would bankrupt the state. They eventually had to make changes because it was threatening to bankrupt the state.


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    I lived in New York State when they voted in a Medicaid plan. Only one Senator voted against it because he said it would bankrupt the state. They eventually had to make changes because it was threatening to bankrupt the state.


    Do you not understand the difference between Medicaid and Medicare?

    And perhaps that a national system could cut pricing farther if for no other reason than that costs would no longer need to be inflated to cover the non insured, or underinsured. In theory the billing staff alone could be reduced. There would still be fraud, but I’m not convinced it could do anything but deminish.
     
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    What I know about Medicare is that I don't want Pelosi and Democrats messing with it. They already raided money from it to fund Obamacare.


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    What I know about Medicare is that I don't want Pelosi and Democrats messing with it. They already raided money from it to fund Obamacare.


    Iirc, that’s a bad extrapolation! Several things were added when the ACA passed, like decreasing the donut hole. And I seem to recall some benefits changing slightly.

    You’ll have to be specific if you are going to convince me that funding was diverted! The major premium changes happened under Bush. A slight new tax was added to premiums for the ACA, slight being relative to the huge costs Dubai put in.
     
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    What I know about Medicare is that I don't want Pelosi and Democrats messing with it. They already raided money from it to fund Obamacare.


    Iirc, that’s a bad extrapolation! Several things were added when the ACA passed, like decreasing the donut hole. And I seem to recall some benefits changing slightly.

    You’ll have to be specific if you are going to convince me that funding was diverted! The major premium changes happened under Bush. A slight new tax was added to premiums for the ACA, slight being relative to the huge costs Dubai put in.

    IOW, he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about and just wants to hike his leg on ACA.


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    The phrase “how do I know what I think until I say it” comes to mind.

    He’s playing to his base who think healthcare for all citizens will mean they will have to wait in line at the doctors office rather than the ER. Well that last part isn’t considered! In Durante, in general, has been going up more than inflation each year.

    Until states no longer have regulatory oversight of health insurance there will be no competition across state lines, there can’t be! That means insurance companies have the power to charge whatever they need to increase their profits!
     
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    What I know about Medicare is that I don't want Pelosi and Democrats messing with it. They already raided money from it to fund Obamacare.


    Oh, now that you and your anal cyst are covered by Medicare, you don't anyone else to get funding from Medicare??? So typical of you as*holes.

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    Toilet paper shortages were how it started in Venezuela. It ended up with people eating the zoo animals to keep from starving.


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    Toilet paper shortages were how it started in Venezuela. It ended up with people eating the zoo animals to keep from starving.
    Nah, it started with a $5.7 trillion tax on the ultra-rich.


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    Toilet paper shortages were how it started in Venezuela. It ended up with people eating the zoo animals to keep from starving.
    Nah, it started with a $5.7 trillion tax on the ultra-rich.


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    The inflation rate in Venezuela is 25,000 percent according to the last report I read.


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