bluelamp,

Interesting drawing.

Do you think we should join the Tea Party Protest Movement?

Sela

John

There is a lot of truth in your diagram, although I would label the sequence BIRTH, GROWING, GETTING SETTLED, and CHANGING.

Sounds a bit like Obama.

Donald

Sela

Here is something really spooky:
http://www.spaceweather.com/sw...bmhc0h1tntjkrkaoj2q2

It is a picture in today's edition of SpaceWeather.com of a single photograph take of the Pleides star cluster at a time when the Space Station would cross it, and lo and behold, a meteor passed at the same time. No, it didn't hit the Space Station, but time wise the crossing was close.

This reminds me of the pre WWII movie about recruiting and training military pilots. It emphasized a continual looking in all directions, although this was before jet planes. Movies about the apocalypse, however, have shown sudden disappearances of astronauts on space walks.

It makes one wonder how God provides for his airborne armies on white horses...

Donald

Donald,

Computing all the information that we have put together while riding these White Horses in cyberspace, there is another date coming up fast that has deep symbolic significance which is March 10. Would that mean the 'final earthquake' which destroys Great Babylon?

Granted, we know that the future is in the hands of the Almighty God of the heavens, but prophecy is chronological, as all of my books and other writings testify; and if, in fact, this is the Year of Redemption, the Jubilee Year, as communicated earlier, then there has to be a correlation to the knowledgeable calculations of prophecy, right?

Hmmm, after typing that, and reading it over, my thoughts are that it probably doesn't make much sense to those armies on earth who aren't riding White Horses?

But God does provide for his airborne armies on White Horses!

Sela

Sela

The next date regarding the Moon and quakes is March 12, which is the Far Point of the Moon. The seismic energy is scattering to the Kuril Islands, the Northern Mariana's, Indonesia, the Philippines, and China, but nothing I can predict as having a great earthquake. Chile, of course, continues to be a great disaster area, and there are some quakes in Argentina.

Care to give more hints as to why your concern for March 10?

Donald

After glancing through Linda's new string, I am reminded that armies march under a flag. So which flag for Jesus?

There is the Christian flag, with the cross.

Linda's note suggests the South Korean flag, white with grouped paired symbols, and the intertwining pair in the middle.

What reference to a banner is from Revelation 19:16 (KJV):

"And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written,
KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS."

That suggests two different dimensions are appropriate, and even heavenly and earthly.

As Sela so well notes, the Bride is separate from the Lord.

Donald

I'll just step in with my predictions that nothing very unusual will happen on March 10th or March 12th.

I'll come back after those dates to taunt you, once again, for the total failure of your predictions in past years and the 100% correctness of my own. Of course, some day by chance I'll be wrong and you'll be right.

But all it will be is chance. This eschatalogy is completely ridiculous. It is based on nothing the least bit rational or logical, yet you both continue to carry on with this nonsense.

So, as always, carry on.

Jeff

Jeff

You are always welcome, especially if you have something concrete in rebuttal.

Since we all have an End, this subject does have pertinence, even if our dates have all been wrong. Then again, doctors are not very good at predicting dates for their terminal patients, so we have some leeway.

Carry on, yourself.
Donald

Donald,

Here we go again ~~ more earthquakes in diver's places!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35...ns/world_news-europe

quote:

Dozens killed as quake shakes eastern Turkey
‘Everything has been knocked down, there is not a stone in place’

CompGuy has a big shock coming! Hope he is prepared for it.

Home Health Care people coming over in an hour, so will have to post more later.

Sela

quote:

especially if you have something concrete in rebuttal.

Best rebuttal, as always, is saying nothing will happen in advance and pointing that out afterwards. Of course, I've done that often in the past years with no obvious effect, which raises the obvious question: What will convince you that what you are saying is without sense, illogical, and most important simply not true? How many failed predictions does it take for you to realize your notions have no validity at all? Or is reality totally irrelevant to your beliefs?

Jeff

Jeff

As I mentioned earlier, there are some things set in concrete that keep the cause going:

Human mortality and experience with great natural and man-made disasters.

Biblical eschatology (Daniel, Revelation, etc.)



Today I received an email describing successful governmental efforts to predict earthquakes, and telling why it is not publicized. The obvious reason is if someone is hurt because they heeded a wrong prediction or the government failed to publicize a life-saving prediction, the lawyers will find a way to make money. The latest case in point is the Chilean government failure to warn its citizens of an impending tsunami, while it did make the prediction for the rest of the Pacific.



Did you know that the Bible is now paraphrased with some of the onerous prophetic material removed. The product is called The Story.



Would you not like to know that dispossessed workers are now robbing houses? Would you stop the news stories to that people would not worry, until their lives are threatened in their homes and/or neighborhood?



Earthquakes are publicized to motivate people to prepare for them, when they live in an area of likely earthquakes.



To have the material at hand is one thing, to not have access is another.



Donald

quote:

Originally posted by EQ:

Biblical eschatology (Daniel, Revelation, etc.)

Donald,

My commentary, "The Final Unveiling", explains how "The Apocalyse" fulfills the entire biblical eschatology event; from the time of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden to present day history.

The Bible predicts that earthquakes would intensify as we approach the Final End, which we have been seeing almost daily on the news channels, not only in Haiti and Chile, but all around the globe; and weather catastrophes also would intensify to record numbers.

Since I AM the only person in the entire world who understands the details of the fulfillment, only after the demise of Great Babylon can they be revealed. This is also Scriptural.

P.S. For some reason the video does not show weather catastrophes. Guess you have to click on the link on the left side.

Sela

quote:

Earthquakes are publicized to motivate people to prepare for them, when they live in an area of likely earthquakes.

Gee--I thought they were publicized because they're news. Did the earthquake reports for Haiti motivate anyone in Chile to prepare for its latest earthquake? Was there some memo to reporters around the world saying, "Hey--better publicize the earthquake in Haiti to motivate people! Don't just write about the menu in the local diner!"

quote:

I AM the only person in the entire world who understands the details of the fulfillment

Oh. Well, I guess that explains why I think it's all nonsense. I simply don't understand the details, like everyone else but you in the world.

Carry on.

Jeff

Jeff
Now really. The victims of recent big quakes haven't even had time to cope with their losses or get all their loans and help from the US government.
While Haiti lost its government buildings, at least Chile has shown a capability to rebuild to codes making buildings resistant.

Sela is still preparing to be the Bride, so we can forgive her pride.
Regarding her Jubilee Year statement, my understanding was that it was 49 years, but the RCC has used 50.

Regarding the size of the earthquakes, let us remember that the 1060 quake was 9.5M, while the current one was 8.8M, thus at the peak smaller. I don't have a figure for the 1960 number of 5M quakes, but the current figure of 185 is growing rapidly, and the spread of quake sites is many degrees along that long linear north/south coast. Even the NW Pacific fault from the Ryukyu Islands of Japan to the Kamchatka Peninsula/Komandorskiya Islands has many big quake sites. Thus the thinking of apocalyptic damage to many cities close to major faults is not currently far off. There also some alternative thinkers who point to the possible capability of terrorists causing big quakes in metropolitan areas, per Tefla. They also point out why governments do not warn populations of big quakes, as it is apparently possible.

This may actually belong on Road to Perdition.

Donald

Donald, so who would you think really has the technology to cause an earthquake?

L) I have a question. I've been waiting for somebody to ask it, but since nobody is going to ask it, I want to ask it: Was the Haiti earthquake an induced earthquake, or was it totally natural?

A: (Planchette swirls on board) INDUCED! Bet you didn't expect that, did you?!

Q: (L) Frankly, I didn't. Because I've already gone on record saying it wasn't. I just poo-pooed the whole idea as too far out there. (laughter) So now I've gotta...

(Joe) Well, it was the Russians who said that, wasn't it?

A: No!

Q: (Joe) Didn't you tell us the Russians reported that?

(L) The question I want to ask is, how do they induce earthquakes? (To Ark) How do you think they induce earthquakes? (Joe) Space-based satellite

(Ark) Well, just search the internet! (laughter) Yeah, it's on the internet. You create special waves that go into the earth and propagate in the right direction...

(L) I don't believe it. They don't have enough power to do that.

(Joe) I want to know who induced it?

A: U.S.

Q: (Joe) At the government level, or super-secret nonsense?

A: Secret gov.

Q: (L) And how did they do this? Was this from some kind of waves that Ark is talking about?

A: Close. And notice that no one is arguing with them right now!

Q: (L) In other words, you've got something that can do that, nobody's gonna mess with you.

(Ark) But the main question is, did they really want to induce it in the neighborhood of Haiti, or it was a mistake?

A: Yes, the prep was done.

Q: (Andromeda) So they intentionally did it to Haiti.

(Ark) What I would do, I would use a submarine and go near the fault, and do the job using these submarines as a so to say amplifiers for something. There are these faults under the ocean. It's enough to move this fault in the right direction with the right frequency, and you get it.

A: Too dangerous that way because the pulses would also destroy the sub. Better to use triangulated space-based weapons.

Q: (Belibaste) Why did they target Haiti specifically?

A: Close to South America. Convenient, oil, other factors of imperialistic nature.

Q: (Andromeda) Was it like a test?

A: No.

Q: (Burma Jones) Not a test, so they've used this thing a lot before?

(Joe) They used it on the Columbia.

A: Once or twice.

Q: (Joe) Used on the space shuttle.

(Psyche) That's why Chavez was so sure.

(Ark) It's probably much easier for the island than on the mainland...

(L) Yeah, because you've got separation with the ocean bed and different strata. It would be too uncontrollable if you started zapping a fault on a large land body.

(Andromeda) Like California?

(Joe) When they said, "notice how no one is arguing with them now", does that mean that most major nations in the world are aware that this was a...

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) Good way to shut people up.

A: Spy vs. Spy


Most quakes I would think are still of the natural variety but natural can be apocalyptic too of course:

Q: (L) When you described it this way, you were talking about everything "opening up." You mentioned that if the earth's rotation were to slow, even a minute bit, that everything "opens up" gravitationally speaking. But, this seems to be connected to solar activity, and not so much the speed of the earth.

A: The solar and earth activities are interconnected.

"
Headlines-

Study finds methane bubbling up from Arctic

Large amounts of methane are bubbling up from a long-frozen seabed north of Siberia, raising fears of far bigger leaks, say scientists.

http://www.abc.net.au/science/...10/03/05/2837443.htm

Sounds like the increase in earthquake and volcanic activity that can be seen, because it is on land, is also going on under the oceans which cover the majority of our planet. This means that things are "opening up." That means, more heating of the oceans while the upper atmosphere is getting cooler, and it is a deadly mix that inevitably leads to an ice age, preceded for a short period by rapid increase of greenhouse gases and "hot pockets" of lower atmosphere in places, heavy rains, hail, snow, floods, etc. In short, it's just part of what we have been experiencing only it seems to be accelerating."

-- John G.

quote:

Most quakes I would think are still of the natural variety

Sigh. No government has the capacity or the desire to induce a massive earthquake that kills hundreds of thousands.

This is insane, crazy talk. Surely you MUST know that!

Jeff

Jeff and John

It sounds crazy, but apparently it can be done There is a guy named Tefla
who using magnetic resonance on site could have done it. This remains in a shadowy area of science, off limits to the common man, and apparently confined to military research, but probed repeatedly by alternative science communities.

At present, however, this is all speculative. It also involves a high energy source.

Those with the satanic communities would definitely have interest.

Donald

I think you mean Nikola Tesla. The Mythbusters tried out his earthquake machine a couple years ago, and declared it busted.
--
Stephen

Stephen
Tesla is the proper spelling. Thanks for the correction and the Wikipedia article. I'm getting too busy these days.

Tesla is an interesting study and a brilliant man, even after being labeled a "mad scientist". He was responsible for AC, alternating current.

Donald

quote:

Originally posted by CompGuy:
Sigh. No government has the capacity or the desire to induce a massive earthquake that kills hundreds of thousands.

This is insane, crazy talk. Surely you MUST know that!

Jeff, well since the 9-11 commission rejected the official story of 9-11 cause of government lies, and since space-based weapons are a good alternative for the official story, it seriously is not a crazy idea for me. For psychopaths there's not much difference between 9-11 and an earthquake.

http://www.sott.net/articles/s...d-on-Government-Lies
http://www.sott.net/articles/s...errestrials-and-9-11

-- John G.

John, Jeff and everyone,

Just a quick drive-by post to kick the thread (although it really doesn't need kicking), and to let everyone know I want to respond to the last few posts in depth but simply haven't had the time. I'm going to do the same thing with the other topic I started on the Divine Feminine.

--Linda

quote:

space-based weapons are a good alternative for the official story

The 9-11 terrorists had space-based weapons?

quote:

For psychopaths there's not much difference between 9-11 and an earthquake.

I don't get the reference to psychopaths. Psychopaths aren't delusional (by definition, although some might be). I'll add to what I said before by saying that I think anyone who believes the Pentagon was attacked from outer space is also nutso.

As long as craziness is kept under the guise of religion, we're supposed to accept it out of tolerance. But some of the statements made here would get the posters locked up in a loony bin except for the religious cloak. Calling it religion doesn't make it less kooky.

Jeff

Jeff

In my family are Californians. They get upset even mentioning earthquakes.

On an outside string I recently received three well written notes on Tesla and earthquakes. I submitted them to a working scientist, whose comment was to refer all three writers to the looney bin.

I continue to publish my EARTH & SUN DIGEST weekly, which I began on Prodigy Internet. The idea then as now was to have a solid a scientific basis for discussion as I could put together. I put it elsewhere because of a lack of interest here, and the new site even gave me an Archive.

The real obstacle here is that very few people want to discuss their demise or the end of the culture in which they nourished their children. America has a NOW culture, and Americans prefer to defer unsavory topics, like paying off credit cards, health care for illegals, and the above.

I'm in this because I am old enough to have a sense of discontinuity because of long standing health problems. You have read Sela's notes and know she has the same, plus her experience with Alaska in 1964.

We both take comfort in the White Horse scriptures, while this winter has reminded us of the depth of misery. We prefer the height of mercy of our Savior.

Let us not forget the tension of the confrontation of Iran and Israel, and Israel and VP Biden. BUT Salvation is where you find it, and as the hymn goes,
"We Are Marching To Zion."

Donald

quote:

It sounds crazy, but apparently it can be done There is a guy named Tefla
who using magnetic resonance on site could have done it. This remains in a shadowy area of science, off limits to the common man, and apparently confined to military research, but probed repeatedly by alternative science communities.

Donald,

"Alternative science communities"? Are you sure that isn't a euphemism for science fiction writers and fans? This induced earthquake stuff is getting just a teensy bit out there, even for me.

--Linda

Donald,

For clarification, this is what was posted on March 6:

quote:

Computing all the information that we have put together while riding these White Horses in cyberspace, there is another date coming up fast that has deep symbolic significance which is March 10. Would that mean the 'final earthquake' which destroys Great Babylon?

CompGuy taunted it as an actual earthquake prediction, but it was a thought flashing through my mind wondering whether there would be another warning event on that day which could be connected to apocalyptic prophecy, since it has deep symbolic significance in my writings. And yes, there was!

While the expectation of a great earthquake destroying Great Babylon did not occur, what did occur yesterday has more significance than the earthquake! As mentioned earlier, the Chilean earthquake did literally change the topography of the earth, but apocalyptic literature predicts that after that event, a GREAT HAILSTORM would occur!

quote:

King James Bible
And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great. Rev.16:21

Did you see the headline news about twisters and 'great hailstones' forcing the closing of schools and other events in Arkansas, Texas and other southern states on March 10?

See: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35796816/ns/weather

quote:

NBC News reported that "baseball-sized hail" fell south of Texarkana, Ark., on Wednesday, but the night's storms missed most population centers.

Ironically, the plague of 'hailstones' is the EXACT sequence of events which occurs after 'cities of the nations' fall from great earthquakes!

My commentary states:

quote:

Since the law of God provides that blasphemers should be stoned with stones until they died, we see in the last moments of earth's civilization (as we know it now), God Himself upholds His law and stones blasphemers with hailstones.

There is one singlar warning that pervades this entire chapter: The time for emendation of life (repentance and change) is very short. Christian life should be lived in constant awareness of Him who is the Judge of all men. (Quoted from pgs. 160-161, "The Final Unveiling")

More proof that GOD'S WORD IS TRUE! Be warned, O Great Babylon!

Sela