Donald,

Just to let you know am still around, but recovering from the blood transfusion yesterday that I emailed you about; also today is Decadron slump day. However, am riding out the slump with the help of these White Horses, so look out below!

Events analogous with the ride on these 'White Horses' continue with much more coming; and at the end of this month we will know more than at the beginning!

Sela

Sela

It seems I have gone off on a Bible verse relation project.

Here are some examples:

If Paul says we shall be tranformed in an instant and rise to meet Jesus in the air,
what are the armies of God on white horses doing? Armies like the element of surprise, and surely God wants to help those in Paul's transformation.

Since the New Jerusalem is mentioned with the New Earth and New Heaven, doesn't that make the New Jerusalem God's Ellis Island?

Since the End Times includes a loss of water, but God has the Crytal Fountain (or sea as mentioned in Revelation), that means to me that God already has control of redistribution of the water. In my poem "Old Coyote's Ride", the River of Life is used for refreshing and cleaning before each rider presents himself to Christ at the thronen.

I think the Pearly Gates are just meant to scare people. Whoever could pass through a gate the size of the usual pearl? On the other hand Jesus is leading the armies, has already demonstrated his ability to walk through walls, so with perfected bodies on perfect horses each should be able to pass through the walls following Jesus.

If the New Jerusalem is an Ellis Island, and the New Earth and New Heaven are just being set up, do you supposed all souls in transit might be put in suspended animation, only to become talking stones until released to their reward? Jesus did say that if people failed, even the stones would cry out. Who else talks?


This week I was having fun reassuring caged seniors of the value of horses, as I wore a tie with the red, white and blue and a man in Western gear on a brown and white horse. At least it gave them some reassurance and something to think about, mentioning the white horses of the armies of heaven. I'm waiting, of course, for the professional reaction.

Moisture from Hurricane Alex is heading our way as the storm downgrades. The moisture may cause problems over the Fourth, as it did last year.

You are running up hospital bills, I'm running them up repairing autos: $500 before the minivan crashed, and $250 for upgrading my Jeep' transmission and differentials. I"m not investing in fireworks this year, just in caged people. My dogs are a big help and are well received at the senior centers. I'm finally cleared to go back to one of the ones under reconstruction and redecoration. I visited there today, and was greated by a resident saying, "You are the healer who heals!" I was gone for two months, and even got a big hug from one of the nurses. Yes, it is a locked ward, with a privilege ladder.

So, I'm not riding my white horse yet, but I am certain he is ready.

Here's my Fourth of July program:
Navy Hymn, Eternal Father, Strong to Save
Star Spangled Banner, emphasis on 4th verse with "Our trust is in God"
Onward Christian Soldiers
God Bless America
I Am An American
God Bless Our Native Land
From A Distance
Battle Hymn of the Republic
My Country Tis Of Thee
Amazing Grace

Encores:
The Eagle
The House That I Live In

It woke people up and was well received.

Donald

Donald,

Discovered something today so startling about the Fourth of July, that I decided to post it. Didn't know if this should be posted on the "White Horses" thread or "The Road to Perdition" (did not want to start a new topic); but after thinking about it for a few seconds, realized that we have already discussed the 'Jubilee' on this thread, so where else would I post something about the Jubilee Year? The article read:

quote:

The Fourth of July is so inextricably entwined with Thomas Jefferson, whose pen provided the original fireworks, that it might as well be his birthday along with the nation's. As it happens, of course, the Glorious Fourth is Jefferson's death day, along with that of John Adams. [Check it out on the underscored URL link to Wikipedia.]

In a great, mystical marvel, Jefferson and Adams died within hours of one another on July 4, 1826, the Jubilee of the Republic. For a man whose religious convictions were always suspect, who had had the infinite audacity to edit the Bible (deleting miracles and other passages he found frivolous), Jefferson's mortal drama concluded with an ironic twist: a minor miracle of his own.

Of course, it doesn't take a great mathematician to figure out that it is fifty years from the time the Declaration of Independence was signed (1776), to the death of Jefferson and Adams.

Article continues:

quote:

For many citizens of a nation aflame with the spirit of the Second Great Awakening, the joint departure was a galvanizing confirmation of America's Divine sanction. In large cities and small towns, public orations marked what the Common Council of the City of New York called, "the remarkable dispensation of Divine Providence, in the death of two of the illustrious signers of the Declaration of Independence, on the 50th anniversary." In Washington, U.S. Attorney General William Wirt said, "Heaven itself mingled visibly in the celebration and hallowed the day anew."

You needn't share the era's particular fervor to embrace its celestial version of events. With oil menacing our shores and enmity and suspicion tearing at our polity this Fourth, we can all use a story too good to check.

As the countdown continues, Divine Providence continues to show how Heaven itself is inextricably mixed with the events here on Earth; and that has been the purpose of all my writings for all these years ~~ climaxing in the JUBILEE YEAR ~~ which we discussed earlier.

And if that isn't enough 'synchronicity' for you, Donald, it is almost unbelievable that the main article on my Internet homepage was this.

quote:

In an early draft of the Declaration of Independence, Jefferson wrote the word "subjects," when he referred to the American public. He then erased that word and replaced it with "citizens," a term he used frequently throughout the final draft.

It sure doesn't take a grain of salt to get a message out of all this ~~ to show how times have changed since the first Fourth of July! Do I need to spell it out and ask whether the word "citizens" in the Declaration of Independence this Fourth of July is now being replaced with "subjects"?!

But, as has been dramatically revealed on this "White Horses” thread for the past 22 months, that is what the Book of Revelation is all about ~~ a great revealing! Hmmm, and synchronistically enough, Revelation has 22 chapters!

Enough said?

Sela

Sela

I did open a new subject, on the New Jerusalem.
Check it out.

Jefferson's Jubilee was 50 years, right?

Donald

Lest we lose perspective on the horses, the White Horses of this string relate to the army of God on white horses mentioned near the time of the Second Coming, the New Jerusalem and the New Heaven and New Earth.

Here is the perspective of King David:

quote:

Psalm 33:
16 No king is saved by the size of his army;
no warrior escapes by his great strength.

17 A horse is a vain hope for deliverance;
despite all its great strength it cannot save.

18 But the eyes of the LORD are on those who fear him,
on those whose hope is in his unfailing love,

19 to deliver them from death
and keep them alive in famine.

The bigger job to me appears to call for the well trained white horses of heaven, to deliver to the place of Deliverance and Salvation.

Donald

On the other hand, there is an old John Wayne movie called Rider of Destiny, in my collection, that features:
a man from Washington riding a beautiful white horse
a budding war on water rights in the Old West
a beautiful girl who rides horses well, and gets to ride double on the white horse to safety
a dry land, in part because of a dam and legal water rights
the only other source of water a well with the sound of running water
land owners without water except that negotiated with the holder of the water rights
a plot with a dry rancher requesting aid from Washington, and John Wayne being the secret agent come to investigate. (This is in most respects a true blue Hollywood western.)

While this also has elements for the Ellis Island string, note:

The one on the white horse is the man from Washington (God's army has its own riders.)
John is helpful and immersed in his work, but enjoying people while shooting the hands of the bad guy.
The man from Washington is structured in his response to a specific request.
The well is blown up, opening a stream (The River of Life comes from the crystal sea, and the specific request in the hymn, We're Marching to Zion, is the opening of the Crystal Fountain, or sea).
The bad guys die by the way they lived, a bad guy by the gun, the owner of the legal rights by suicide with his horse diving into deep water, but the horse survives.

Water is still a key element, but for White Horses more complex but still worth exploring.

Donald

quote:

Originally posted by EQ:
Lest we lose perspective on the horses, the White Horses of this string relate to the army of God on white horses mentioned near the time of the Second Coming, the New Jerusalem and the New Heaven and New Earth.

The bigger job to me appears to call for the well trained white horses of heaven, to deliver to the place of Deliverance and Salvation.

Donald,

Actually, the White Horses of Chapter 19 appear during the end of the eschatological event known as the Second Coming. It follows then that all the age-end prophecies of Scripture have been fulfilled in these waning moments of Darkness before the Dawn. But, as history has shown, and even to this day, people love darkness rather than light because their deeds were evil. (John 3:19). John, the evangelist, in that text shows how the work of Christ sifts out the good from the evil by the very nature of people either coming to the light or abiding in darkness.

Amos 5:20 also describes the 'Day of the Lord' as darkness and not light. Whoops, that Biblos page was Spanish. Looks like the Spanish language is spreading all over. Here, this Biblos page might work better for you.

quote:

20 Is not the day of the Lord darkness, and not light, and gloom with no brightness in it?

The point is that those key texts show that the Last Day showdown is darkness and not light. The choice is not "Deliverance and Salvation" but "Destruction and Judgment".

The end-time judgment begins at a specific time, as indicated on this topic, progresses through a specific time period, and ends on a specific day. All these special times have been revealed on this thread and, as said, the feast of the birds is the final outcome.

Riding these Celestial White Horses has been both fascinating and devastating. In the realm of the oracular, it is very likely the ride will come to an end by the end of this month. It has been a long journey.

Sela

Donald,

Here is another event analogous to this celestial ride in the heavens ~~ heralding more signs of the end! As the Bible states, there will be 'signs in the sun' ~~ before that great and notable Day of the Lord!

The 'sign in the sun' is the total Solar Eclipse that occurs this Sunday, July 11, which will totally darken Easter Island. It is the first total eclipse to cross this remote island in about 1,400 years ~~ at which time, interestingly enough, gave birth to the Islam religion. This was no ordinary eclipse, for it marked the boundaries of Western Civilization, and it told the story of Christianity and Islam.

For an interesting story about this unique island in the South Pacific, click here.

Is there a hidden message here?

Sela

P.S. Would you believe it? My computer crashed after posting this message, so had to re-login to the Aant Hill to finish it. Is that another hidden message?

Sela

This is my second try to respond to your emails.

There is an article out from NASA detailing the course of the full eclipse.
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/S...TSE2010/TSE2010.html

It will run from Vanuatu (site of some big quakes recently) near islands in French Polynesia to Easter Island to the southern tip of Chile and Argentina. I'm not sure how much I would like to make of that course, but I concede it is interesting and worth following. The article points out that the shadow of the eclipse will cross the middle of Earth.

Donald

Sela

A subject that somehow got left out is whether those white horses will have their own horseman and those rising per Paul will be caught up on passing horses.

My little book, Son of Coyote, When Jesus Was a Cowboy, portrays at least two possibilities. The first is that I have Jesus on his white horse rescuing Old Coyote, a shaman who knows Jesus. Later on, as the armies of God are flying on their horses, I have the rescued shaman mounting his own heavenly white horse. I haven't pushed publishing that book, including the epic poem "Old Coyote's Ride", because I felt I was missing something. I think now that those horses needed their own masters guiding them as they rescued their human charges.

Jesus, of course, died that all believers in his Way would be rescued. Since he surely rescued John of Revelation from the crucifixion of the rest of the Apostles, I am convinced of the hand of Christ Jesus involved in all who follow him, and that he indeed has Salvation as a positive thing for the Day of the Lord.

So, who are the riders? Do they continue the care of the horses, even as the Saved need guidance to live in Paradise? Do horses, riders, and rescued all have as part of perfection the ability to bypass the pearly gates and go through walls? Maybe that is the filtering mechanism, the Saved go through walls like Jesus, and those unable have to go through the pearl-sized gates.

Donald

Donald,

The news goes on, the ride goes on, and I am too tired to post. My oldest granddaughter took me shopping today and we had a great time; but after reviewing your posts and scratching my head, decided to wait until I washed my hair in dandruff shampoo before responding. Just kidding!

Sela

Sela

I too am scratching my head until I realized,
This is a SOLAR Eclipse that started in one time zone and then went into the prior one across the International Date Line. Here is the full NASA report:
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/O...10.html#SE2010Jul11T

Last week was a crazy week for me, and I almost was in a car collision as someone backed quickly out of their driveway. In part it was the leftover humidity from the hurricane, but Cheryl had a scheduled surgery on Friday too.

Happy day, it is the beginning of a new week.

Donald

quote:

Originally posted by EQ:

Last week was a crazy week for me, and I almost was in a car collision as someone backed quickly out of their driveway. In part it was the leftover humidity from the hurricane, but Cheryl had a scheduled surgery on Friday too.

Happy day, it is the beginning of a new week.

Donald,

That near collision sounds like the seemingly random chaos of life -- when people do things without thinking. That's how accidents happen ~~ the thinker thingy isn't working. See it all the time.

Prayers for your wife, hope everything went fine. Also am glad it is the beginning of a new week, lots of stuff going on as usual. The regular monthly visit with my oncologist is Wednesday, and hope the protein count has gone down so that my chemo drugs can be reduced. The second chemo drug I currently have been taking (10 pills on Monday) puts me in such a torpor (sounds better than stupor) that by Wednesday and Thursday I don't know if I'm coming or going! My doctor warned me that it would put me in a 'slump' for several days, but by Friday it wears off; and Saturday and Sunday are good days. Hmmm, that means tomorrow I will be popping those ten pills into my mouth. Hmmm, maybe the beginning of a new week isn't so great after all...

Just heard on TV that BP plans to have the oil leak stopped by July 27. If you will look back over my posts, that is the VERY DATE that was cyptically predicted as the final date this 'ride through the heavens on White Horses' would end! It was my plan go back over some of our postings and re-post pertinent scriptural passages related to this chapter in Revelation; but that burden of communication was left in space with the White Horses because of recurring health and drug problems.

Imho, this whole thread reads like a story right out of The Apocalypse. Oops. It is.



Sela

Sela

Well, we are still here.

July 27 is as good as any, and it gives us a chance to evaluate the oil in the ocean.
Here are the ocean currents, showing interconnections.

Presently it appears BP and friends are picking up a lot of oil, but I haven't heard the bust factor, as they say in the weather reports.

Donald

Donald,

Hopefully, I will have the time to get back to this semantic dramatization of the "White Horses" in the next few days. There is usually so much going on in my private life that sometimes my teeth ache when I try to get some rest. Right now it's my whole body, but 'slump' day should be better by tomorrow.

However, the oxycodone keeps me moving so that the 'slumps' do not consume me.

Sela

Donald,

Logged on this morning to very significant news.

quote:

Washington D.C. rattled by area's largest recorded earthquake

One doesn't need to have extrasensory perception to know that this rumbling is directed at the heads of BABYLON THE GREAT who sit in their seats of power so far removed from the ordinary citizen that it is utterly repugnant to watch the corruption that has been taking place in this country these 'last days of civilization as we know it now'.

We have been discussing these things throughout this entire "White Horses" thread, based on the prophecies in the Book of Revelation, and my interpretations in the "The Final Unveiling." The significant earthquake this morning is simply one more sign of THE END!

Would like to write more but have another clinic appointment this morning plus other activities going on.

Sela

Sela

Here is the write-up in Comcast News:
http://www.comcast.net/article...16/US.DC.Earthquake/

The big O didn't feel it, however.

Rockville, MD, is the location of the National Institutes of Health.

Maybe there will be another under the White House when the court gets done with the AZ law on illegals...

I'm reminded that even the Law recognizes some events as God-given.
Donald

Donald,

Yesterday my husband and I went to a movie. We seldom go to movies because most of the movies these days are sexist, male chauvinist, vulgar, stupid, offensive with graphic sex scenes, nudity, little or no plot, filmed as cheap as possible in the hopes of making big money at the box office. Most producers go the limit just to see what they can get away with; and then if you throw in incest or homosexual relationships, you will have a glimpse of what to expect with most Hollywood films. The days of Mary Poppins are over.

But since it was our wedding anniversary this week, my husband said he would take me to a movie on his days off; so we checked out the movie guide in the morning paper. We decided to go to the movie house closest to where we live, pick a movie that was funny and not violent, and not more than two hours long. The movie "Cyrus" was billed as "A cleverly offbeat comedy", so it seemed to be relevant to the kind of movie we wanted to see.

Now I can tell you that what a movie is billed at, and what you will actually see are TWO SEPARATE ISSUES! It was rated G13 but it should have been X-rated! I certainly would not want my grandchildren to watch the most distasteful, lewd, vulgar, misogynist, incestuous movie I have ever seen. Here is the trailer for it.

Profane language, such as the use of the 'f' word, is rampant; and just the other day, heard on television that it is 'bombs away' for the 'f' word. The FCC struck down this four-letter word as not being expletive and there will be no fine or loss of license to the nation's airwaves anymore for using it! Can you believe it? Vulgarity is just fine with the FCC! The more vulgarity in this world the better!

This is typical Great Babylonish influence which I wrote about extensively in my book, "The Final Unveiling".

The dialogue in the movie, "Cyrus", is vulgar from the beginning to the end. The movie is misogynist because it depicts women as dumb and stupid. It is incestuous because the woman who plays the role of the mother to Cyrus takes showers with her son, sleeps with him, and coddles and cuddles him throughout the movie. There is a raw sex scene in her relationship with the man who enters her life, John, played by John C. Reilly, who is recently divorced and looking for a woman. The two are in bed humping each other with her on top. There is also another scene of John showing him walking into her bedroom wearing just his underwear bv's with a lump in the crotch area. The camera, of course, focuses on the crotch area. There is a scene that implies masturbation.

To rate this movie as G13 and call it a 'comedy' is absolutely repugnant. But this will give you an idea of what is meant by the 'great earthquake' of Revelation 16:18-19, where great Babylon comes into remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of His wrath!

And soon is not soon enough!

Sela

Sela

I think your note belongs under Road to Perdition, but I agree with you. My wife for some reason subscribed to Netflix, and I too am getting disgusted with the depth of sexuality portrayed.

I also think that the White Horse concepts show the importance of individuality before God.
Then couple that with the hypersexuality noted in animal overpopulated colonies.

Yesterday I viewed "The Dish", which might suit you and Roy much better. It is the story of the large radio dish used in Australia to monitor the Apollo 11 landing on the Moon, the first of several. Since I did some physiology research, I found that movie absolutely fascinating.
There is plenty of romance in the movie, but no explicit sex that I remember. What I really enjoyed was the team building to get the job done. I think there is a strong element of team building in White Horses too, which I tried to catch in my book, "Son of Coyote: When Jesus Was a Cowboy". Circumstances there are very important.

Again, are there any signs of the Sabbath Millennium yet?

Donald

Sela

Perhaps an overview of that little book is in order:

Jesus is on his white warhorse, and at the start is standing on a cliff overlooking the seashore.

In his view are the creatures of the world, many named. Included is a pack of the descendants of the wild marauders that escaped from the zoo in my first book, "The Coming of Coyote: A Southwestern Odyssey". There is something new and more evil, Son of Coyote, a cross breed between coyote and hyena, who patrols the periphery of the pack's movements. All animals are wary of this group, and Jesus also, as shepherd of his flock, even of horses.

Jesus then turns to other problems for his charges, and finds Old Coyote, a shaman dedicated to watching the pack, since he was a tribal leader when man killed Coyote's mate. They renew acquaintance. Old Coyote had been injured, so Jesus offers a ride to the walls of safety, an abandoned Penitente morada. The conversation continues into the night. Old Coyote is finally persuaded of Salvation through Jesus, when he takes a walk a only to be confronted by Son of Coyote, and Jesus saves him physically again.

The Earth then undergoes a drastic change, with the ocean waters vanishing into dark clouds.

The remaining horses gather at the morada.

Old Coyote meets and rides his White Horse to his destiny, watching the last battle of mankind, and gaining his guardian angels for his ride with the heavenly armies into the New Jerusalem.

Note: This is not a time of persecution for believers, but a time of reward. As we have stated earlier, judgment and reward are built into the heavenly system. The angels are to help us in our adjustment to being perfected suddenly.

Donald

quote:

Originally posted by EQ:
Again, are there any signs of the Sabbath Millennium yet?

Donald,

Absolutely. The entire drama of "The Apocalypse" has been fulfilled exactly as predicted in my book, "The Final Unveiling", except for the 'great earthquake' of Revelation 16:18-19, which is scheduled to occur as designated on this topic; and this will bring fuller actuality to the theme of Final Judgment and the Sabbath Millennium. The Lord intervenes decisively in the course of human history, triumphs over the unbelievers, exalts the righteous believers, and in so doing, the scriptural demand for 'justice' becomes an actuality; thus bringing in the Great White Throne judgment!

It has been posted a number of times on this thread that there are two suppers: one for those invited to 'the marriage-supper of the Lamb'; and the other is for those who eat crow. It can't be stressed enough that watching the unbelievers 'eat crow' is the central characteristic of the final book of the Bible. Of course, those who 'eat crow' are all associated with the 'beast and kings of the earth'.

And actively working towards WATCHING these events on a multifaceted level are you and I riding the "White Horses"!

Goodness, all of this has been posted before on these forums, so it is not a big a secret.

This is the final time period in history that inaugurates a new era of peace, prosperity, and righteousness, commonly referred to as the "Messianic Age", or "Sabbath Millennium". A new clarity to this time period is the "Jubilee Year" which we have explored in previous posts.

Also, as said previously, I wanted to integrate a short synopsis of John's visions into this long journey of flying through cyberspace on "White Horses", but couldn't bring it into the realm of action here on-line because of personal elements interfering ~~ which is the story of my life.

Why do you suppose God gave me fifty years to complete my mission?!

Hope to answer some of your other questions later.

Sela

Sela

As the Moon is half-way between Near and Far Points, there has been an eruption of three strong earthquakes (latest on top):

7.3M 2010/07/18 13:35:03 -6.019 150.497 57.6 NEW BRITAIN REGION, PAPUA NEW GUINEA
6.9M 2010/07/18 13:04:13 -6.116 150.522 57.5 NEW BRITAIN REGION, PAPUA NEW GUINEA
6.7M 2010/07/18 05:56:44 52.861 -169.839 10.0 FOX ISLANDS, ALEUTIAN ISLANDS, ALASKA

None of these has triggered a significant tsunami, and the New Britain one is in a large oceanic lagoon. I do believe all three are related, with the energy from the Alaska quake almost totally sent to New Britain.

Note that sometimes big quakes in the New Britain/Solomon Island area trigger quakes on the West Coast, so stay tuned. The Moon is half-way in motion toward its Far Point (Apogee), having three days ago crossed the Equator going South. It reaches its Southern Limit on 7/22.
Note that the magnitude of the quakes is increasing.

Donald

Sela

I don't see much of that " peace, prosperity, and righteousness".

Donald

quote:

Originally posted by EQ:
Sela

I don't see much of that " peace, prosperity, and righteousness".

Donald

Donald,

It is a gradual development which corresponds to John's vision in Chapter 21. If you look beyond the bric-a-brac of the physical world into the final prophecies of the Bible, you will see how "all things work together for good to them that love Him."

Goodness, had a couple of phone calls while typing this so kind of lost my train of thought. As soon as Roy gets home, we are planning on picking up Ethan and Alexa (my beautiful 3-yr. old granddaughter) and going out to eat. She loves McDonald's PlayPlace.

Back to the subject-at-hand later..

Sela

Seka

After church today I had a talk with a pediatrician who just returned from a mission with his wife to Honduras. My question to him was on the choice between God and manna. He had said earlier that they left a lot of materials at the site of the mission. The answer to my question, however, was a definite interest in continuing manna.

At lunch my wife and I discussed the state of our material goods, with a house needing costly maintenance and two 1992 cars in need of repairs. Her comment was that she had no interest in working until 75 to be funding maintenance. The debt clock is racing higher.

My service to my fellow seniors and earthquake-sensitives continues, and I continue to eat.
My wife and I did a dreamland trip to J C Penny's, and found lots of good stuff, but few customers. How long can this continue?

Donald