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Capping a daylong assault on congressional Republicans, President Obama appointed three members to the National Labor Relations Board as part of a series of recess appointments the GOP had tried to prevent.

Obama made the move while Congress is away for the holiday break, but meeting every few days in pro forma sessions to block the White House from precisely these type of recess appointments. The labor board appointments were tucked into Obama’s more public announcement of Richard Cordray as the new consumer protection bureau chief.

“The American people deserve to have qualified public servants fighting for them every day,” Obama said in a statement. “We can’t wait.”

Whoo Hoo!


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Obama shames do-nothing GOP with 5 recess appointments

Gus, save this post. Chango not only supports recess appointments, he supports "recess" appointments when the Congress isn't even recessed.

Obama isn't the last President that will ever occupy the office, but apparently he is the only one that matters?

I guess if Obama can decide when Congress it is and is not in recess, the Congress can decide if Obama has or has not signed a law.
 
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Yes, I support extraordinary measures to combat extraordinary obstruction of the Constitutional process.

This was not just a matter of a disagreement about the qualifications of the nominees, which is the ordinary case. The GOP was obstructing because they didn't like the agencies and/or the laws that created them. That's unprecedented.


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I count four recess appointments, not five...

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According to the Congressional Research Service, President Bill Clinton made 139 recess appointments. President George W. Bush made 171 recess appointments, and as of December 8, 2011, President Barack Obama had made 28 recess appointments.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recess_appointment

Obama derangement syndrome strikes again--Zorro is upset about the 4 recess appointments Obama made, but seems unconcerned about the 171 appointments done by George Bush.

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The American people deserve to have qualified public servants fighting for them every day,”




Should be:

My union buddies deserve to have biased bureacrats doing their bidding every day.


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BS.

He appointed people that would have clearly been confirmed if they had been allowed a vote.


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What happens when the president makes a recess appointment when the Senate is not technically on recess?

Nobody knows.

But President Barack Obama’s decision to jam the Senate and install three labor nominees and a consumer watchdog without a confirmation vote raises unsettled legal questions that could have a long-lasting impact past his presidency.

“This is not a nice, clear-cut area at all,” said Robert Dove, a former Senate parliamentarian, when asked about the implications of the president’s move.

Legal experts said Wednesday that there was no precedent for such recess appointments and that it would likely be put to the test in the courts by industry groups seeking to challenge regulations issued by the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, whose new head, Richard Cordray, received an appointment even though the chamber was technically in session every few days.

Obama, they said, had effectively reasserted the power of the executive branch in the ongoing confirmation battles over the president’s nominees that have been dominated by the Senate during the past half decade.

But in concluding he had broad authority to install his appointments, Obama risks seeing other nominees bottled up by Senate Republicans who are privately vowing to retaliate against what they believe is a brazen power grab by the Obama administration. And if Republicans regain control of the Senate in the 2012 elections, it may be even harder for the president to win confirmation of controversial nominees if Obama wins a second term.


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And if Republicans regain control of the Senate in the 2012 elections, it may be even harder for the president to win confirmation of controversial nominees if Obama wins a second term.

That should tell you how rotten the Republicans have become.

Out of spite and a power play by the minority they are threatening to block nominees that haven't been appointed yet!

Do you have a clue how bad that is for our country?


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Obama came to grips with the fact that there's nothing to gain by negotiating with Republicans.

Their threats are now meaningless, and since the popularity of congressional Republicans in single digits, there's everything to gain by confronting them.


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Obama derangement syndrome strikes again--Zorro is upset about the 4 recess appointments Obama made, but seems unconcerned about the 171 appointments done by George Bush.

Jeff goes dumb again. The Senate was not in recess. Further Obama just wasted on Cordray as the text of the Dodd-Frank law states that those powers will not take effect until the CFPB director "is confirmed by the Senate."
 
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Jeff goes dumb again. The Senate was not in recess.
Yes, it was. Even the right-wing Volokh legal blog admits that Obama was right and the so-called recess was a sham. (Some of the Volokh bloggers are so extreme that they even belong to the Federalist Society.)
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Concluding that such pro forma sessions (which by design are not for conducting business) interrupt the recess of the Senate and thus prevent recess appointments would present a risk to separation of powers because it would allow the Senate unilaterally to frustrate the President’s exercise of a power granted him by the Constitution, which the Framers considered to be important to keep the government functioning by filling offices. Cf. McAlpin v. Dana, No. 82–582, slip op. at 14 (D.D.C. Oct. 5, 1982) (“[T]here is no reason to believe that the President’s recess appointment power is less important than the Senate’s power to subject nominees to the confirmation process.”).
Obama found out that every time he confronts the Republicans, as he recently did over the payroll tax extension, the Republicans are forced to back down against their will, because the American people hate the Republicans are completely agree with Obama.

President Obama will be re-elected and there is nothing you or Mitt Romney can do about it.


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Yes, it was


No it wasn't:

Article One, section Five of the Constitution states:

Neither House, during the Session of Congress, shall, without the Consent of the other, adjourn for more than three days...

Obama claims to have made a recess appointment while the Senate is not actually in recess.
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The Constitution says the Senate cannot recess for more than three days without the House's permission. The House has not granted permission, and as a result both houses have been holding pro forma sessions out of constitutional necessity.

There is an argument that pro-forma sessions are just a sham. Obama is not the first to make it. I don't find it very persuasive, but it's an argument that some very smart people make.

Yet in this particular case, in which the House has not consented to a Senate recess, the pro forma session does not seem to be the issue. The Constitution is the issue. Without the consent of the House to adjourn for more than three days, the Senate is in session, whether it wants to be or not.

http://campaign2012.washington...ution-says-no/292211
 
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I support extraordinary measures to combat extraordinary obstruction of the Constitutional process.

Nobody obstructed these NLRB nominees, their names were only submitted three weeks ago.

http://www.nationalreview.com/...intments-iain-murray

They were never filibustered
 
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Zorro strikes a blow for fraud and abuse!

Cordray is in. See you in court - U.S. vs. Credit Card Lobbyists.

Bawahahahahahaha!


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I can hardly wait for Obama's second term when he has no one's butt to kiss and won't give a damn what the freak GOP thinks anymore. We're going to see the REAL Barry stand up and kick some butt!


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We're going to see the REAL Barry stand up and kick some butt!

Or triple his golf time and basketball watching.
 
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Don't even talk about presidents taking time off. Bush set the record, and you never made a peep.


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Don't even talk about presidents taking time off. Bush set the record, and you never made a peep.
No he didn't, but thats not the point. Cheryl thinks once Obama is reelected he will suddenly start serving his base. I don't think so. I think he is fundamentally a lazy person, currently goaded into action because he needs his base. Once he is reelected, he doesn't need you folks anymore and he can coast out his term playing golf and watching basketball.
 
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Yes, it was


No it wasn't.
Yes, it was. I am right and you are wrong.

Remember, zorro, every time you try to argue with me about legal or constitutional issues, you lose -- every single time. Most conservatives just don't have the mental capacity for that sort of thing.


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Yes, it was

No it wasn't. Per article 1, Sec 5, without consent of the House to adjourn for more than 3 days, the Senate is in session. House never consented, therefore, the Senate was in session.

Your Guy Obama just set precedent for the President to declare the Senate is out of Session whenever he feels like it, so he can recess appoint.

If this stands, I'm sure you will be just thrilled with how the next GOP President uses this new found power.
 
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Yes, I support extraordinary measures to combat extraordinary obstruction of the Constitutional process.



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The White House said what the Senate was doing - gaveling in and out of session every few days solely to avoid being in recess - was a sham. Obama's aides said the president would not be stopped by a legislative gimmick, even though it was Senate Democrats who began the practice to halt President George W. Bush's appointments.


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The non-political Library of Congress publishes calendars showing when the House and Senate are in session:

http://thomas.loc.gov/home/ds/s1122.html
says the Senate was in session only on January 3rd so far in 2012.

http://thomas.loc.gov/home/ds/h1122.html
says the same for the House.

The Obama recess appointments were yesterday, January 4th. Neither the House nor the Senate were in session then.

If anyone wants to go to the Supreme Court to contest the appointments, they're free to do so. But no one will, because they're too embarrassed to have to make the claims the House and/or Senate were actually in session when they weren't.

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So far Obama has been among the hardest-working, most productive presidents - and the most conciliatory. Now the worm has turned because Republicans have overreached the bounds of decency in partisanship - freeing Obama to treat them like the traitorous scum they are.

Bringing basketball and golf to this topic is a typical, desperate try to divert from a losing argument.


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I count four recess appointments, not five...

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According to the Congressional Research Service, President Bill Clinton made 139 recess appointments. President George W. Bush made 171 recess appointments, and as of December 8, 2011, President Barack Obama had made 28 recess appointments.

Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recess_appointment

Obama derangement syndrome strikes again--Zorro is upset about the 4 recess appointments Obama made, but seems unconcerned about the 171 appointments done by George Bush.

Jeff
In addition, G.H.W.Bush made 77 in four years.... and let's not forget the king-of-em: Reagan made 240!

IOW: since Reagan took office in January 1981, through December 2011... it has gone like this:
    488 recess appointments by CON presidents

    167 recess appointments by DEM presidents
Obama has a lot of catching-up to do, in order to balance the scales, eh?! Wink   ;)


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