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Well, well, well. Seems like the Mittster filed reports with the government that had a "minor discrepancy" according to his PR staff--he didn't mention the interest from a Swiss bank account and didn't mention his investments in the Cayman Islands, Ireland, and Bermuda.

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Romney revising disclosures for overseas accounts
by NBC's Michael Isikoff • Jan. 26, 2012

Mitt Romney could face new questions about his overseas investments after a campaign official acknowledged to NBC News that his campaign is revising his financial disclosure forms to report more than a half dozen offshore holdings, including income from a multi-million dollar Swiss bank account that was not disclosed last year.

The tax returns released by the Romney campaign this week showed that the Ann Romney Blind Trust had reported $1,783 in interest income from a bank account held at UBS in Switzerland in 2010. But the Swiss bank account -- as well as other offshore investments in the Cayman Islands, Bermudas and Ireland that appear in the trust fund's tax returns -- were not disclosed in Romney’s financial disclosure form filed with the Office of Government Ethics last August.

A Romney campaign official emailed Thursday afternoon that Romney’s financial disclosure form is now being amended with the government ethics office “to address this minor discrepancy” and “to deal with some other minor issues.”
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Malt said he opened up the Swiss bank account, holdings in which are valued valued at between $1 million and $5 million, in 2003 on behalf the Ann Romney trust in order to provide “international currency diversification” for the trust's holdings. He then shut it down in early 2010, he said, noting that Romney was preparing to run for president at the time and he did not want to have it become an issue in the presidential campaign.

The campaign had no immediate explanation for why the $1,783 in interest income from the UBS account had not been included in the 2011 financial disclosure, an omission noted by political rivals.
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Malt initially insisted in an interview that the amount was below the threshold that needed to be reported. But one category on the standard government financial disclosure form specifically asks candidates to report assets valued at between $1,000 and $5,000 as well as income from any holdings of between “$1,001 and $2,500.” A campaign official later said Malt had been misunderstood, acknowledging that both the 2007 and the 2011 financial disclosures the campaign filed are being revised.

But the inclusion of the Swiss bank account is apparently not the only revision. The Ann Romney blind trust also reported income from shares in offshore companies such as Barricuda Investments Ltd. in Ireland, Castle Garden Funding in the Cayman Islands, and Sankaty High Yield Assets Investors Ltd. in Bermuda. Those holdings also were not included in the financial disclosure form that Romney filed last August. The form requires presidential candidates to report all assets and income for them and their spouses for the full calendar prior to the year of the filing.


Read between the lines. The Swiss bank account was closed down because "Romney was preparing to run for president at the time and he did not want to have it become an issue in the presidential campaign." So this was something that Romney ALWAYS planned to hide. He didn't realize, though, that he still had to report the interest earned by that account even though it had been closed.

Notice how dismissive Romney is of the idea that he had to follow the law and file an honest report. Oh, a half-dozen foreign accounts with tens of millions of dollars is a minor oversight to him and his staff.

Fact is, Romney never planned to release his tax returns and thought he could lie freely on his official report. He was wrong about that.

Makes you wonder what is in the 2009 and earlier tax returns that he DIDN'T clean up. What does he have to hide in those?

Note, also, that Mitt lied in his 2007 financial statement too, submitted when he ran for office then.

Absolutely shameful, IMHO--both the attempted subterfuge and his regal dismissive attitude when his lies of omission were uncovered.

And a good reporting job by investigative reporter Michael Isikoff!

Jeff

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http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com...or-overseas-accounts
 
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Stick a fork in him. He's done.

These might all be minor, explainable matters, but it makes him more of a poster boy for the idle rich in the minds of working Americans.


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Romney revising disclosures

Big deal. When he discovered it, he disclosed it.
 
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Originally posted by CompGuy:
Well, well, well. Seems like the Mittster filed reports with the government that had a "minor discrepancy" according to his PR staff--he didn't mention the interest from a Swiss bank account and didn't mention his investments in the Cayman Islands, Ireland, and Bermuda.

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Romney revising disclosures for overseas accounts
by NBC's Michael Isikoff • Jan. 26, 2012

Mitt Romney could face new questions about his overseas investments after a campaign official acknowledged to NBC News that his campaign is revising his financial disclosure forms to report more than a half dozen offshore holdings, including income from a multi-million dollar Swiss bank account that was not disclosed last year.

The tax returns released by the Romney campaign this week showed that the Ann Romney Blind Trust had reported $1,783 in interest income from a bank account held at UBS in Switzerland in 2010. But the Swiss bank account -- as well as other offshore investments in the Cayman Islands, Bermudas and Ireland that appear in the trust fund's tax returns -- were not disclosed in Romney’s financial disclosure form filed with the Office of Government Ethics last August.

A Romney campaign official emailed Thursday afternoon that Romney’s financial disclosure form is now being amended with the government ethics office “to address this minor discrepancy” and “to deal with some other minor issues.”
...

Malt said he opened up the Swiss bank account, holdings in which are valued valued at between $1 million and $5 million, in 2003 on behalf the Ann Romney trust in order to provide “international currency diversification” for the trust's holdings. He then shut it down in early 2010, he said, noting that Romney was preparing to run for president at the time and he did not want to have it become an issue in the presidential campaign.

The campaign had no immediate explanation for why the $1,783 in interest income from the UBS account had not been included in the 2011 financial disclosure, an omission noted by political rivals.
...

Malt initially insisted in an interview that the amount was below the threshold that needed to be reported. But one category on the standard government financial disclosure form specifically asks candidates to report assets valued at between $1,000 and $5,000 as well as income from any holdings of between “$1,001 and $2,500.” A campaign official later said Malt had been misunderstood, acknowledging that both the 2007 and the 2011 financial disclosures the campaign filed are being revised.

But the inclusion of the Swiss bank account is apparently not the only revision. The Ann Romney blind trust also reported income from shares in offshore companies such as Barricuda Investments Ltd. in Ireland, Castle Garden Funding in the Cayman Islands, and Sankaty High Yield Assets Investors Ltd. in Bermuda. Those holdings also were not included in the financial disclosure form that Romney filed last August. The form requires presidential candidates to report all assets and income for them and their spouses for the full calendar prior to the year of the filing.


Read between the lines. The Swiss bank account was closed down because "Romney was preparing to run for president at the time and he did not want to have it become an issue in the presidential campaign." So this was something that Romney ALWAYS planned to hide. He didn't realize, though, that he still had to report the interest earned by that account even though it had been closed.

Notice how dismissive Romney is of the idea that he had to follow the law and file an honest report. Oh, a half-dozen foreign accounts with tens of millions of dollars is a minor oversight to him and his staff.

Fact is, Romney never planned to release his tax returns and thought he could lie freely on his official report. He was wrong about that.

Makes you wonder what is in the 2009 and earlier tax returns that he DIDN'T clean up. What does he have to hide in those?

Note, also, that Mitt lied in his 2007 financial statement too, submitted when he ran for office then.

Absolutely shameful, IMHO--both the attempted subterfuge and his regal dismissive attitude when his lies of omission were uncovered.

And a good reporting job by investigative reporter Michael Isikoff!

Jeff

Source:
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com...or-overseas-accounts


Gee,you must really be outraged over this

http://aantares.com/eve/forums...6052334/m/9490098246

No? You sometimes its almost like libs with their mock outrage are just lying sacks of crap or somethin.
 
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Big deal. When he discovered it, he disclosed it.

He didn't discover it. He hoped no one would discover his lying. When someone ELSE discovered it and called him out on it, he played catchup/spin/revision.

Do you really think the people who submitted his financial information to the SEC in 2007 and 2011 didn't have the facts? Or that Romney and his attorneys hadn't reviewed the financial forms before submitting them?

His PR people already admitted Romney closed his Swiss bank account because it would look bad when he started running for president. His people certainly knew he had one. How convenient to "overlook" the interest on it for his disclosures.

Note, of course, that he reported the foreign accounts and the interest earned on the Swiss account on his tax returns. That's how his lie was exposed.

Do you REALLY think those who prepared the financial disclosure forms for the FEC didn't have access to his tax returns? How else would they have prepared the forms?

Jeff
 
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Gee, still no outrage over this?

http://aantares.com/eve/forums...6052334/m/9490098246

No? You sometimes its almost like libs with their mock outrage are just lying sacks of crap or somethin.
 
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Do you really think the people who submitted his financial information to the SEC in 2007

It was shown in his 2007 disclosure, it simply did not clarify that it was his wife's trust, not his.

You are wrong. You claimed "he lied" when it was you who deliberately omitted exculpatory information.

I demand that you immediately retract, apologize and donate a sizeable amount of money to Romney as penance.
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Romney also decided to amend the report from his 2007 run for president, a decision first reported by the New York Times. That form identified a UBS money market account, but did not clarify that it was held by his wife's trust.

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Of John Kerry was French, then Mitt is Swiss, and more so.


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that the Ann Romney Blind Trust had reported $1,783 in interest income from a bank account held at UBS in Switzerland in 2010




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Of John Kerry was French, then Mitt is Swiss, and more so.
Is that supposed to be a sentence?
 
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Romney revising disclosures

Big deal. When he discovered it, he disclosed it.


When he discovered it? Did his money fly overseas without his knowledge?


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When he discovered it? Did his money fly overseas without his knowledge?

Yes. His money has been in a blind trust for many years.
 
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When he discovered it? Did his money fly overseas without his knowledge?

Yes. His money has been in a blind trust for many years.
If you're middle class, zorro, then the vulture capitalist Romney was waging class warfare against YOU.

I guess you're not smart enough to figure this out.


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When he discovered it? Did his money fly overseas without his knowledge?

Yes. His money has been in a blind trust for many years.


That trust must have been really blind! Wink   ;)


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That trust must have been really blind!

That's the point of a blind trust.
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A blind trust is a trust in which the fiduciaries, namely the trustees or those who have been given power of attorney, have full discretion over the assets, and the trust beneficiaries have no knowledge of the holdings of the trust and no right to intervene in their handling.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_trust

This stuff isn't hard to figure out. I found this with google in about 3 seconds. Sometimes its almost like Libs are just too dumb to breathe or somethin
 
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I'm loving every minute of righties defending the super rich.

Keep up the good work!


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Comp Guy claimed Romney "Lied" "Cheated" "Hid". And now we find that Romney actually paid MORE than what he owed, and Comp Guy has run and hid almost like he is a lying skunk or somethin?

I DEMAND a retraction, a donation to the Romny Campaign and ten days of wearing a button that says "I'm With WILLARD and I Love it!"

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Keep up the good work defending Swiss Mitt and his secretive, foreign investments.


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Comp Guy has run and hid almost like he is a lying skunk or somethin?

Amazing. I have a job, Zorro. I don't read this stuff all day long like you. I've spent the past few hours helping a dentist with his server problems.

My entire topic here is about Romney's false FEC flings. I haven't said anything about his tax returns. On the contrary, I've assumed his tax returns are truthful--that's the basis of saying his FEC filings are lies, since they omit accounts and income that's reported on his tax returns.

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It was shown in his 2007 disclosure, it simply did not clarify that it was his wife's trust, not his.

You are wrong. You claimed "he lied" when it was you who deliberately omitted exculpatory information.
You really can't read, can you. Where did I say anything about his wife's trust? I quoted this sentence about the 2007 filing:

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one category on the standard government financial disclosure form specifically asks candidates to report assets valued at between $1,000 and $5,000 as well as income from any holdings of between “$1,001 and $2,500.” A campaign official later said Malt had been misunderstood, acknowledging that both the 2007 and the 2011 financial disclosures the campaign filed are being revised.
He did NOT report the income from that Swiss bank account in 2007--that's why the report is being revised, now that he was caught lying.

If he wasn't lying, Zorro, why is he revising the report now? Or do you think he simply forgot about the account that was in his tax returns--a multi-million dollar account?

Jeff
 
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Comp Guy has run and hid almost like he is a lying skunk or somethin?

Amazing. I have a job, Zorro.

Amazing. You have time to post lies and insults about Romney, but then when the NY TIMES verifies that he evaded no taxes, in fact, he even paid more than required, then suddenly you are "to busy" to retract your false statements?

Romney clearly is a man of enormous integrity, and you simply fell for leftwing swill and slop.

I demand a retraction, that you donate to his campaign, put his bumperstickers all over your car and well as Romney signs on your lawn. Post photos that you have complied and your penance will be complete.

I urge you to do this as a friend. Don't live with the filthy stain on your conscience for another day! Free yourself from your guilt!
 
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Amazing. You have time to post lies and insults about Romney, but then when the NY TIMES verifies that he evaded no taxes, in fact, he even paid more than required, then suddenly you are "to busy" to retract your false statements?


1) I never said Romney evaded taxes. On the contrary, I said he didn't and that I assumed his tax returns were accurate.

2) I said he lied on his financial disclosure docs submitted to the FEC in 2007 and 2011. He admits now that he did. His staff is correcting those false documents.

3) It's exactly the fact that his tax returns DID list assets that he should have but didn't list on his FEC disclosures that unmasked him as a liar.

All clear now?

You seem to have a problem understanding simple sentences. Perhaps you could learn to read better.

Jeff
 
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I said he lied on his financial disclosure docs submitted to the FEC in 2007 and 2011. He admits now that he did.

He did not say he lied. Jeff, you are being quite untruthful. You made up a bunch of crap about an honest man of integrity. You claimed he made knowingly false statements. You claimed he deliberately hid income. And now even the New York Times admits he paid EVERY penny owed, and even paid MORE than he owed in taxes. You have slandered a righteous man. You should retract, wash his windows for a week, donate generously to his campaign and walk his dogs for a week.
 
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3) It's exactly the fact that his tax returns DID list assets that he should have but didn't list on his FEC disclosures that unmasked him as a liar.

All clear now?

Yes. You slaundered, you have been proven wrong, and you are doubling down. It is very unseemly.

Even you admit he paid every penny owed and even went above and beyond what the law required and paid additional. Yet you continue to throw around terms like "lied" "hid" and so forth.

Quite frankly, I'm embarrassed for you. I demand a retraction and an apology. I also demand that you donate to his campaign, and take his trash out for a month.
 
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