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Al Gore Said North Pole Would Be Completely Melted This Year… Guess Not, Huh?
http://www.thegatewaypundit.co...-year-guess-not-huh/ | ||
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No, he didn't say that at all. He said SOME models SUGGEST this might happen with a 75% (not a 100%) probability. It wasn't his claim--he was quoting a respected scientist. Source: http://www.climatedepot.com/a/...ning-to-do--not-Gore Notice the hedges in Gore's statement: "some suggest" "nearly" "possibly" "could be" Naturally, the biased sources you love ignore all the hedges and pretend Gore had made an absolute statement of some sort. He never did. Your subject title is misleading--and as usual I have to conclude that it's misleading on purpose. Shame on you, once again. Jeff | |||
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The math that describes the complex system of the harmonic progression of the orbital perihelion of the Earth (we are at perihelion now in January) ... as well as the axial precession of the Earth, the precession of the equinox is known as Milankovitch cycles and Gore probably had a silly computational error in the integrals he was working out. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Has anyone seen Schrodinger? ~~~~~~~ History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. Dwight D. Eisenhower ~~~~ Praise be to the LORD my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle. Psalm 144 verse 1 | |||
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In any event, zorro has no credibility when he complains about "junk science" since he does not even believe in macroevolution. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Don't Say Say "Obama's Predecessor," if you absolutely have to. | |||
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Deceive, distort and divert. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | |||
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Yup | |||
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GFY | |||
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And shame on you once more for that. Jeff | |||
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GFY. He is a babbling idiot, he completely blew it, you are using the wiesel word defense to defend him, by claiming my claim was dishonest. Gore is a propagandist, a liar and now proven fool. | |||
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Didn't I post that already Zorro? Did you not read it? Wasn't that the point of my own post? You can keep repeating "GFY" as long as you like. You can keep repeating your original false headline as well. All that does is show that you ignore the facts completely and respond with insults when you're proven wrong. Your mindless posts with a simple "GFY" add nothing to any discussion and violate the TOS of this board. You agreed to those terms, but your word obviously means nothing to you. You have no honor or credibility left here as a result of such behavior. Jeff | |||
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That's been the case for a long while. His only purpose here is to deceive, distort and divert. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | |||
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There is another possible factor and I wish that I could find the article to link to. but there is a recently discovered molecule in the atmosphere that affects cloud cover when there are temperature increases. The general effect is that it cancels out the higher temperatures. So we get some help not that we deserve it... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ whyisit | |||
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It would be nice to know what you're talking about since you don't! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it.." --Al Gore, Vice President | |||
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Well before I tell you to GFY again, let's get a ruling from CJ. I alerted the post you objected to and explained that you consider it to be a violation. I was not under the impression it was a violation. Before you go into another lather of your pious bs, try shutting your mouth until we hear from her? Gore is a liar, The models you folks cite are lies, The inflammatory claims, such as those of an ice free arctic are lies meant to stampede public opinion policy and the allocation of funds, which interestingly, once the Green liars get the funds flowing they then stand in the stream like Grizzlies in a salmon run and harvest the taxpayers money for their own grubby greedy pockets. That you advocate argue and back such liars and theives makes you as bad as they are. | |||
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Zorro, I've never reported a note as a TOS violation ever, nor have I ever removed a note for such a reason. But it's pretty obvious that a post consisting solely of "GFY" falls under this violation: Certainly a "GFY" note serves no useful purpose. Let's go over the issue again, since you still haven't responded to the facts. 1) You said Al Gore "said" the North Pole "would be completely melted this year." The article you linked to didn't say that. It said that Gore talked of a statistical possibility, not a certainty. Gore's statement as quoted was hedged and since it was hedged it was not a lie. Your statement is not hedged and misrepresents what Gore said. 2) You quote the source that Gore used as denying he had said such a thing. My link reports that Gore's source actually published an article saying what Gore stated around the time in 2009 that Gore issued his statement. Point: I presented evidence Gore's statement was accurate--and it was a PUBLISHED statement by Gore's source, in writing, at the time--not hearsay or a later recantation. So if you choose to tell me to "GFY" again without dealing with the issue, I'll know for sure you have no interest in discussing it. And if you repeat your false statements, I'll know the same. I wish you would simply admit you're wrong when you're wrong, but that's too much to ask for apparently. But let's not continuously repeat "GFY" as your response, please. It's insulting, rude, hostile, and adds nothing to any discussion. And if I SAY it causes me distress, it's a violation anyway. Jeff | |||
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I didn't say you did. You complained about my note, so I reported my note to CJ. She will tell me her decision and I'll honor it. U.S. Icebreaker About to Reach Cut-Off Alaska Town. Gore is a huge lying pile of crap. Anyone who claims to believe his pronouncements of pending doom is either a liar or an idiot. You seem too smart to be an idiot, but who knows?
Global warming lies affect public policy. Why invest in ice-breakers if the arctic is soon to be ice-free?
http://www.popularmechanics.co...town?click=pm_latest | |||
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Personal insult. "...clown" *CJ | |||
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Well, before I can "rule" I'll have to know what Zorro thinks "GFY" means. In the meantime, there is a personal insult note in this topic which I'll take care of now. *CJ | |||
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Z. suggested that Jeff "read the title of the article" to see where "Gore said the ice cap would be ice free this year." The title of the article is NOT a Gore quote... it's the article author's words, not Gore's words. I followed all the links in the article posted by Z. Of those available (damn few, btw) not a single one has Gore stating the North Pole would be completely melted this year. If the RW'rs spent 20% of their time on learning the FACTS associated with issues, they'd have LOTS of time to decry truth-based issues rather than their myths, lies and faerie tales. Almost makes me feel sorry for RW'rs. *CJ | |||
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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gfy says there are two definitions for GFY. I didn't know that. Sorry. I'd only heard the obscene one. Zorro, I never said I reported anything as a violation or thought you had said that; on the contrary, I said I never reported anything as a violation. I thought it was a little odd that you reported your OWN post, but that's your decision. Let's go over the issue just one more time. If a meteorologist says "Some weather modules suggest that there is a 70% chance of rain next Tuesday" and it does not rain, would you say the meteorologist was a liar? Would you berate him as a fraud? All Gore did was make a similar statement about projections given by some models for climate change. And that fact that it did NOT rain on Tuesday doesn't mean the model was wrong either. It doesn't mean the science has to be abandoned. The model has a statistical probability built in, and that gives it flexibility for things that are not certain. Predicting climate change years into the future is not an easy task, obviously. Gore never said he was a scientist presenting his own research--he was presenting the research of others. Jeff | |||
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Somehow I doubt Zorro was saying 'good for you'. Past experience, ya know. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ “I’m not familiar precisely with exactly what I said, but I stand by what I said, whatever it was.” ---Willard | |||
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If I made an error, I want to know it. So if someone says I commited a TOS, I report it. | |||
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That's utter crap. First Gore's source never made the claim Gore claimed he made, further Gore is a fraud, you know it, I know it, the entire world knows it. He is a snake oil preacher with a false message of sin, doom and penitence. Meanwhile, he is the world's first carbon billionaire, he is an energy swine and he has personally gotten fat as a pig. | |||
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In Zorroland. In Reality, since Gore did not say what you alleged, that makes you the "fraud." Score one for Gore. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | |||
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I've already linked twice to proof that Gore's source DID make the claim. Do I really have to do it a third time? Aren't you paying attention? Do you think denying that fact will make it go away? I assume you can remember that Al Gore was Vice President of the U. S. for eight years. Here's what Wikipedia has to say about his career following that. Zorro, you say the world knows he's a fraud and that I know it too. Well, I don't. And I'd say that someone given the Nobel Peace Prize, a Grammy, an Emmy, a Webby, an Academy Award, who was runner-up for Person of the Year by Time, is not known by the world to be a fraud. Isn't it obvious? I wouldn't say that Gore or any human is always right about everything. But to call him a liar and a fraud is beyond the pale. Jeff | |||
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