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The idea that someone could pay zero gift taxes on contributions to a $100 million trust fund may surprise people who have heard arguments that the wealthy are overburdened by gift and estate taxes. But the Romneys’ gift-tax avoidance strategy is perfectly legal.

Under tax rules, wealthy people must pay a gift tax of 35 percent on gifts above a lifetime limit known as the “unified estate tax credit.” That limit was $1.2 million for a married couple in 1995 when the sons’ trust was created and $2 million in 2009, but is now $10 million.

So, if the limit is, at most, $10 million, how did the Romneys create this $100 million fund without paying gift taxes?

The explanation may stem from how the Romneys were able to value the assets put into the trust. If I’m right, it involves a special tax deal that Congress gives to people who manage investment partnerships, as Romney did at Bain Capital from 1984 to 1999.

This deal allows these managers to receive a kind of compensation known as “carried interest.”

http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/


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Romney sons made $100 million without paying a penny of tax


And without doing a lick of work...yet they want us to believe they're 'just like us'...


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If you pay enough for lobbying, you get to write the rules--and then you get a huge return on your lobbying investment.

Lobbying is a kind of bribery, IMHO. It shoud be abolished or strictly controlled.

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tax it .. dollar for dollar .. 100% .. instant solvency ... but .. i'm in agreement with will rogers' sentiment .. "we're lucky we're NOT getting all the gub'mint we pay for " ...

something's got to give ...influence peddling and outright purchasing of special exemptions has run rampant ... i agree with jeff .. shut it down ..


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Romney sons made $100 million without paying a penny of tax


And without doing a lick of work...yet they want us to believe they're 'just like us'...
Really now, they were creating jobs.


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But--the one percent are job creators! Got to be! Even if they just stash all their money in investments, some overseas!

So saith Repubs/righties.

Our Founding Fathers and many Republican Presidents as well were against the ability of rich people to keep passing their fortunes down to their heirs. The Liberal Curmudgeon made some good points about that. (As usual, I can only quote some--see the source for the rest.)

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http://budiansky.blogspot.com/...erson-and-other.html

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Adam Smith, Thomas Jefferson, and other fellow travelers
by Stephen Budiansky • Oct. 14, 2010

If there was one thing the Revolutionary generation agreed on — and those guys who dress up like them at Tea Party conventions most definitely do not — it was the incompatibility of democracy and inherited wealth.

With Thomas Jefferson taking the lead in the Virginia legislature in 1777, every Revolutionary state government abolished the laws of primogeniture and entail that had served to perpetuate the concentration of inherited property. Jefferson cited Adam Smith, the hero of free market capitalists everywhere, as the source of his conviction that (as Smith wrote, and Jefferson closely echoed in his own words), "A power to dispose of estates for ever is manifestly absurd. The earth and the fulness of it belongs to every generation, and the preceding one can have no right to bind it up from posterity. Such extension of property is quite unnatural." Smith said: "There is no point more difficult to account for than the right we conceive men to have to dispose of their goods after death."

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Others wanted to go much further; Thomas Paine, like Smith and Jefferson, made much of the idea that landed property itself was an affront to the natural right of each generation to the usufruct of the earth, and proposed a "ground rent" — in fact an inheritance tax — on property at the time it is conveyed at death, with the money so collected to be distributed to all citizens at age 21, "as a compensation in part, for the loss of his or her natural inheritance, by the introduction of the system of landed property."

Even stalwart members of the latter-day Republican Party, the representatives of business and inherited wealth, often emphatically embraced these tenets of economic equality in a democracy. I've mentioned Herbert Hoover's disdain for the "idle rich" and his strong support for breaking up large fortunes. Theodore Roosevelt, who was the first president to propose a steeply graduated tax on inheritances, was another: he declared that the transmission of large wealth to young men "does not do them any real service and is of great and genuine detriment to the community at large.''

But the spin doctors for the Repubs call the estate tax "the death tax" and all the candidates pledge to eliminate it.

Including Romney.

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a "ground rent" — in fact an inheritance tax — on property at the time it is conveyed at death, with the money so collected to be distributed to all citizens at age 21, "as a compensation in part, for the loss of his or her natural inheritance, by the introduction of the system of landed property."

Except Libs don't distribute it equally, they steer largess to their constituancy groups.

The Federal Government has their hands in everything though they do a good job at very few things. I want them backed off and hands off everything we can get their hands off of.
 
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I want fair tax laws that don't allow rich people to avoid their fair share.


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