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...all a result of inadequate parenting.

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. Don't change what anyone says when you're quoting them.

3. The fact that you think you can use "an Aspergers"

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I think parents, for the most part, are the cause of autism.

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It reminds me of the old, now discredited concept of the "schizophrenogenic mother," which caused no end of unnecessary grief, guilt and shame for mothers who did not cause their children's schizophrenia. For the most part, I think blaming the parents is superstitious behavior -- a way of trying to inoculate oneself from the tragedy that can visit any of our lives with a shattering randomness.

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Originally posted by Victor Laszlo:
Maybe the link is that those children with autism are a lot harder to brainwash than those who do not have autism? If you don't have the senses to learn about jesus, does that make you an atheist?

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The whole concept of one having "faith" in a capricious and sometimes arbitrary "higher being" is beyond the realm for most with autism. Hell, they don't understand how "their bus" can be five minutes late... how the hell can they understand/assimilate an imaginary figure like God?

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Originally posted by *CJ:

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Originally posted by Victor Laszlo:
Maybe the link is that those children with autism are a lot harder to brainwash than those who do not have autism? If you don't have the senses to learn about jesus, does that make you an atheist?

This works for me, and for many professionals in mental health.

The whole concept of one having "faith" in a capricious and sometimes arbitrary "higher being" is beyond the realm for most with autism. Hell, they don't understand how "their bus" can be five minutes late... how the hell can they understand/assimilate an imaginary figure like God?

*CJ

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Certainly a good point. Limited mental skills can be a greased track toward Atheism.

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Is atheism a sign of intelligence?

Recent posts have proposed convoluted theories accounting for why atheists score higher on IQ tests than religious people. There is a much simpler explanation. Like a lot of correlations of this type, it is probably less exciting than it appears.

Atheists are probably more intelligent than religious people because they benefit from many social conditions that happen to be correlated with loss of religious belief. When one looks at this phenomenon from the point of view of comparisons between countries, it is not hard to figure out possible reasons that more intelligent countries have more atheists as Richard Lynn (2009) reported.
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Given that each of these factors are recognized causes of low IQ scores (Barber 2005), there is little mystery about why religious countries score lower on IQ tests. Of course, the same phenomena are relevant to comparisons within a country, although within-country differences in these factors are generally smaller. Even so, the wealthier individuals in a country experience life differently than the poorer ones, developing higher IQ scores and greater religious skepticism.

As to the more exciting explanations, I doubt that religion causes stupidity if only because some of the most brilliant people of history, such as Isaac Newton, were highly religious like most of their contemporaries.

Whether intelligence causes people to reject religious belief is more complex. It is certainly plausible that highly intelligent people would have a problem accepting some of the more improbable beliefs required by their church Moreover, modern science offers explanations for phenomena that were previously explained in terms of religion and intelligent people may prefer the scientific account..

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Originally posted by Zorro:

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high-functioning autistic

Pretty tough to get classed

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Originally posted by Zorro:
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having toileting issues, don't you think?

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Originally posted by Whyisit:
What's classed???

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Originally posted by Zorro:

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high-functioning autistic

Pretty tough to get classed

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Originally posted by CompGuy:
No, Zorro, "classed" is not a synonym for "categorized." Jeff

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I haven't heard it used that way before.

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Definition: categorize

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"Older mothers are more likely than younger ones to have a child with autism, and older fathers significantly contribute to the risk of the disorder when their partners are under 30, researchers are reporting."
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02...health/09autism.html

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Originally posted by Zorro:

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Originally posted by Whyisit:
What's classed???

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Originally posted by Zorro:

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high-functioning autistic

Pretty tough to get classed

synonym for categorized

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tr.v. classed, class·ing, class·es
To arrange, group, or rate according to qualities or characteristics; assign to a class; classify.

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classification is an artificial (synthetic, non-fundamental) process by which we organize things for presentation or later access. It involves the arbitrary creation of a group of classes which have explicit definitions and may be arranged in a hierarchy. In other words a class is strictly defined and once inhabited the inhabitants can be enumerated.

Categorization, on the other hand is a natural process in the sense that humans do it as part of their cognitive fundament. It is, like Studer reports, an act of simplification to make apprehension and comprehension of the environment more efficient. Categories spring up out of necessity and because they are designed to replace the details of definition are themselves resistant to definition. When provided with a list of stuff we are able to categorize the stuff, but when asked to list the full contents of a category we cannot.

So to put it more succinctly:

a class is a defined grouping of entities in which the members fulfill the definition of the class and can be listed.
a category is a cognitive label applied to a non-enumerable grouping of entities wherein membership is determined by typicality amongst the members and not some overarching definition.

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zorro There is no suck word. Class or classified maybe but no "classed"

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zorro, your spelling sucks...