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http://new.music.yahoo.com/blo...was-it-john-or-paul/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it.." --Al Gore, Vice President | ||
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I didn't read the site you linked. I don't need any article to tell me the answer. John started the group and he was the driving force at first. John lost his influence for a number of reasons and Paul then became the driving force. Anyone who knows anything about the Beatles would know this without having to ask it. It's a stupid question, really. It's like asking if Joe DiMaggio was the driving force behind the Yankees or was it Mickey Mantle. Holy Bhagworm <---- Beatles expert | |||
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Pete Best, because if he had not been fired by John and Paul and replaced by Ringo, the Beatles may have stayed mired in the smoking working class pubs as just another stage act. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Has anyone seen Schrodinger? ~~~~~~~ History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. Dwight D. Eisenhower ~~~~ Praise be to the LORD my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle. Psalm 144 verse 1 | |||
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your thinking is tainted. The question was "who was the driving force?" It's true that Paul wrote some of the great early ballads and co-wrote the great hits with John. Paul was the cute one with the incredible sweet voice - but it was John who was the driving force behind the band. Later on, John left his wife, got into heroin and lsd, and lost interest in being the driving force behind the Beatles. John wrote some amazing stuff, but he did it when he felt like it. Paul, on the other hand, conceived Sgt. Peppers and agonized to keep the band together. Even though Paul did a lot of lsd, he wasn't ruled by it the way John was. Paul was clearly the driving force behind Sgt. Peppers, Magical Mystery Tour, Abbey Road, and the unfortunate Let it Be album. In my opinion, he also started to emerge as the driving force in Rubber Soul and Revolver, prior to Sgt. Peppers. It's not that John was washed up - because John's solo albums were all incredible works of art and very powerful - something McCartney was never able to do after he left the Beatles. Holy Bhagworm | |||
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Sure, john is the driving force, but I wonder if the composition of the group was different if he would have had the opportunity to be a driving force. Paul's cuteness, George's spirituality, Ringo's "differentness" and John's poetry, it was a formula of the composition of the group that must be factored into the overall equation. That's why I have made several joke references about how, in a parallel universe: Breaking news: World renowned rock and roller, Mark David Chapman of the Chapman Five, was gunned down on on a Liverpool street by local tough, John Lennon. Lennon, a local pub musician and general layabout who spent as much time in the drunk tank as he did playing music, was quoted as saying, "I coulda been famouser than Chapman if only me mate Paul had never been nabbed with that 12 year old girl!" I know, pretty dark, but it illustrates the group dynamic was as important as the group product. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Has anyone seen Schrodinger? ~~~~~~~ History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. Dwight D. Eisenhower ~~~~ Praise be to the LORD my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle. Psalm 144 verse 1 | |||
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I keep thinking of Yoko describing Paul as "June rhymes with spoon", which is probably unfair but anyway there it is. Perhaps Paul's biggest contribution was being a balance AGAINST John's gravity, or keeping the Beatles from being just enough but not too much Lennon-esque? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Going to war without the French is like going hunting without an accordion." | |||
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So, the greatest musical talent on the Beatles, in regards to composition, instrumentation, progressive sound, integrative sound, studio sounds, and voices is relegated to second class by your ignorance, spartan. Typical. That's what I expect from you and your uninformed barely-functional generation, particularly, the republicans among yourselves. Disgraceful and alarming. Keep on trying to re-write history and maybe someday you'll get GWB and hitler to look like good guys. Pfffftttttt! How dare you diss Paul McCartney and not understand John Lennon! Holy Bhagworm | |||
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